Question : When doing SEM with Azoogle Ads or CJ, do you think it’s a waste of money to bid for anything lower than the top few spots in sponsored search?

ShoeMoney Answer: On the Pay Per Click side of Search Engine Marketing I never pay more then the minimum allowed by the search engine. So basically 10 cents (yahoo’s Minimum) is the most I ever pay per click. This method requires a lot more work and “skill” if you will because you have to come up with longtail keyword combinations, typos, and misspellings.

As far as placement goes really I do not put that much into it. I have found that I get more clicks being 1,2,3 then bad for 4,5,6,7 but ok for 8,9,10 spots. I think this stems from the same explanation as SEO that people either click on the first results or scroll to the bottom and find something that catches there eye.

I think the most important thing is your CTR (click through ratio). There are tricks you can learn to increase this that really have nothing to do with even your ad copy. If you are in the USA and search Google for “shoemoney” you will see this:

ShoeMoney Adwords

Notice how the bold words form a arrow like > ? That is a nice eye tracking trick that for me increased clicks by about 25% in ANY SPOT. Discovering this for me was a HUGE THING because more clicks means a higher quality score which moves you up for more exposure which means you get more clicks which… well you get the point.

Of course I just use “shoemoney” as a example especially since I only bid 2 cents per click on it (and i know all you assholes are going to go click it now). Anyway always test.


Each Monday I am going to try to take some questions asked to me in email and here on the blog and answer them. I call the answer part the “Shoemoney answer” mainly because I do not know if its right or wrong but its what I think based on my experience so far.

By Jeremy Schoemaker

Jeremy "ShoeMoney" Schoemaker is the founder & CEO of ShoeMoney Media Group, and to date has sold 6 companies and done over 10 million in affiliate revenue. In 2013 Jeremy released his #1 International Best selling Autobiography titled "Nothing's Changed But My Change" - The ShoeMoney Story. You can read more about Jeremy on his wikipedia page here.

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    1. With the net people typically skim first to see if they want to read something. Who wants to look at a sea of words on the screen? Well, I’ve started to try to “bold” the main points or use anything else that will get there attention. I didn’t really think about using it for ads since they were so small. I guess it would be even more important to get their attention.

  1. Revealing real tactics like this is why you are the best! Is this the level of detail you provide at the Elite Retreat?

  2. perhaps… the elite retreat is more about helping you take your business to the next level. It will probably involve tricks that we have learned. The elite retreat is not a sit down and be amazed by shoemoney and friends tricks though 😉

  3. Not getting the arrow thing, but the Bolding by matching the keyword phrase is a huge click thru factor.

  4. > the elite retreat is more about helping you take your business to the next level

    Excellent. When are you opening registration for San Francisco? I will be there! I’ve already learned so much from your blog and radio show, so can’t wait to meet in person.

    BTW, you say in this post that you always bid the minimum. While it of course varies by topic, what type of click volume does that translate into per day? Can you really get 1,000s of daily quality clicks at a nickel or dime?

  5. We are just squaring away the other leaders/partners for this event and should be opening it up in the next couple weeks.

  6. This is a great tip. Actually I think you mentioned something about it on one of the Net Income shows awhile back. I implemented this on some of my campaigns and have seen some great results.

  7. Nice tip there Shoemoney. I actually laughed when I read it, because a little while back I published the exact same trick and ad in my PPC guide. The article can be found here if you’re curious.

  8. […] ShoeMoney just did a post stating the question – Is It A Waste Of Money To Bid On Keywords Where You Are Not In The Top Spots? […]

  9. […] Jeremy’s full post “Is It A Waste Of Money To Bid On Keywords Where You Are Not In The Top Spots?“, like most of Schoemaker’s posts, is an absolute must read.  If you’ve got an active ad campaign and can give this or something similar a try — please let me know how it works out. […]

  10. What do you do with longtail keywords and misspellings?
    I cant imagine putting a misspelling in the ad would help, and with longtails you would run out of space?

  11. Great tips Jeremy! That is a serious longtail strategy…you must have to upload a boatload of keywords to get enough traffic to make it worthwhile, though.

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  14. Oh wow. Can’t wait to try this.

    One question though which I think you already partially answered. You bid 2 cents per click for “shoemoney”. I see that is a low price, but why bid on the keyword at all when you are already #1 for that keyword in the SERPS?

  15. Thanks now I can try out little tricks like this. I guess in the next two weeks we are going to see hundreds of ads with this same trick.

  16. Another tear shed for no mo NetIncome. I learned these tips from Shoe 6 months ago by listening to the podcasts.

  17. What if there are so many bids for your keywords that a minimum bid bumps you down to position 53 or something? Do you still bid the minimum if you’ll never get traffic?

  18. Very interesting (and simple) idea. I’ll definitely take the advice and post if I find anything interesting between increased CTR & position. Thanks!

  19. Always got something new and interesting to read 🙂

    Very nice … the awesomeness just doesn’t stop.

  20. Never would have realized or thought about the > trick very interesting information!

    Looking forward to informative mondays 🙂

  21. Google Adwords Tips…

    Here is a nice tip for Google Adwords that the author, Shoemoney, said increased his click thru rate by 25%. This could be huge if it works for you, the more clicks you get, the more you move up the page for the same amount of money, and the more click…

  22. […] ShoeMoney, the guy who made $100K per month with AdSense, was recently asked by his reader if it’s a waste of money to bid for anything lower than the top few spots on PPC search engines. ShoeMoney Answer: On the Pay Per Click side of Search Engine Marketing I never pay more then the minimum allowed by the search engine. So basically 10 cents (yahoo’s Minimum) is the most I ever pay per click. This method requires a lot more work and “skillâ€? if you will because you have to come up with longtail keyword combinations, typos, and misspellings. […]

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    […] If you are someone who uses Google Adwords for any reason you’ll want to check out the ad copy tip posted by ShoeMoney today.  Because of Google’s quality score you’ll want to use your ad copy as a tool to lower your price per click and raise your position in Google Adwords.  Anyway check out how Shoemoney used the ad copy to catch the eye of a browser. « Google Checkout Icon In Adsense […]

  24. […] Un blogger americano che si occupa di SEM e utilizza Adwords di Google sostiene che allineando la keyword digitata dall’utente a forma di freccia all’interno dell’annuncio (e posto uno screenshot altrimenti diventa complicato) […]

  25. Where does the term SHOEMONEY come from ???

    Mebbee I’m daft, but I just noticed last nite, at the end of a movie, that it was produced/made by a company whos logo is a picture of a dollar bill with a shoe on top.

    Funny, as soon as i saw it I thought, I’ll bet thats where Jeremy got it from.. anyway.. enough warbling, its 1AM.

    Bye 🙂

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  27. IMO, the increase in CTR is probably from inserting the keyword into the ad three times – as opposed to the actual shape that the bolded keywords make.

  28. Interesting tip! We play around regularly with positioning and find the bigger the purchase price, the better conversions happen at slightly lower positions. Let the competition educate the consumer. I’ll close ’em.

  29. Jeremy Schoemaker (pronounced “Shoe-maker”). Makes a lot of money online.
    Schoemaker + money = Shoemoney

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  31. That’s interesting, it’s almost subliminal. I would never have thought such a simple trick would make such an impact!

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  33. Some Clarification on “Inceasing your clicks by 25%”…

    Shoemoney posted this article about how he bolded keywords in his Adwords ads and increased his clicks by 25%.

    In theory he is exactly right, having bold words in your ads will definitely increase……

  34. I would have never thought of that but can see how useful it could be. Thank you very much.

  35. Great advice! I seen this the other day and I gave it a shot. Its been only a day now and I have seen my CTR pretty much triple, could just be luck but will continue to monitor it against my previous ad on Adwords and see the difference over the next few days. Thanks for sharing Shoemoney I think your arrow trick works great. Great tip for sure for people trying to increase their click through rate instantly.

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  37. Jeremy,

    I just launched a ad words campaign and yes I’m going to start promoting affiliates through organic search were working on about 15-20 sites, but anyways my QS score goes down big time when I use keyword typos I’m thinking maybe I need to add the keyword typos on the landing page somewhere, but that would be a lot and spammy looking.

    Ohh well I’m sure I’ll figure it out

  38. Shoe, you aren’t joking – when that ad is side by side with the others it stands out like a sore thumb!! Thanks for sharing

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  40. Thanks for the info.
    I just having experiments with PPC marketing and I have to say there are a lot of to talk about…

  41. That is an awesome trick. You say it boosted your CTR by 25 percent which is pretty good if you ask me.

    I’m going to re-optimize and put your tricks to work.

    Thanks

  42. I think its a fantastic idea that is legal, but you need to arrange the words in a such a way that it looks like an arrow, yes it is an eye catching trick. WE need more clicks/conversion= more moneyl.

  43. […] few Mondays ago I answered this question where I revealed a little trick I like to use in my Adwords adcopy that makes my ads make a little […]

  44. That is the craziest tip!

    Our minds do some wild things…did you know that colors affect people differently in different countries when it comes to advertising, blogging, etc.?

    Not an original comment. I read about the colors in a blog post which lead me to an article about the countries.

    Hello, Subliminal.

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