Commentators – Interview From Blogworld

Posted on: October 5th, 2008 by Jeremy Schoemaker

Webpronews interviewed me at blogworld about the Spammers, Trolls, and Sock Puppets panel:

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80 Comments. What Say You?

  1. mrkbsm
    October 5, 2008 at 6:33 am

    Good info in that interview! You really must be one of the Omaha society elite… living on the same street as the Attorney General. And what, just around the corner from Warren Buffett? ;)

    • Custom T-Shirts
      October 5, 2008 at 7:53 am

      I don’t think anyone lives around the corner from Buffett. He probably lives on his own block.

      • Tushar Dhoot
        October 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm

        Actually….

        Buffet is one the humblest and most modest billionaires. He still lives in the same house he used to own before he became rich, worth around some 250 grand I here.

    • Action Sports
      October 5, 2008 at 8:57 pm

      He actually just lives on a normal street in a normal house…. surprising given his wealth

      • Jacques Snyman
        October 6, 2008 at 2:24 am

        Surprising indeed. Nothing is worse than an over the top display of ostentatious wealth. There is always a component of getting one’s nose rubbed in nthe dirt attached to that. The question is always, how much is enough?

    • Goran Website
      October 7, 2008 at 3:21 am

      He’s still humble even after being so wealthy as he is. Now that’s a great quality.

  2. Melvin
    October 5, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Great talk! I thought webpronews at first suck because they were spamming my email even though I never signed to their nl…

    • Danny Cooper
      October 5, 2008 at 6:52 am

      Do you get those emails too? =P

      • Tushar Dhoot
        October 5, 2008 at 12:46 pm

        Doesn’t everyone.

        I’ve gotten them for like 3 years now, I can’t tell to stop spamming me enough.

      • QuickPWN
        October 9, 2008 at 3:50 am

        No, I like to keep my e-mail private. In fact I don’t even have a contact form on my website so people can’t contact me. :P

    • Tamish
      October 5, 2008 at 7:44 am

      Yeah I have been spammed too by WebProNews
      Now I have blocked them up.

      • Bryn Youngblut
        October 5, 2008 at 8:20 am

        I had em too.

        • My CPA Life
          October 5, 2008 at 6:34 pm

          yep, they get pretty aggressive with emails at times

      • Goran Website
        October 7, 2008 at 3:22 am

        I also had trouble with them, so I’ve blocked them too. ;-)

    • mrkbsm
      October 5, 2008 at 10:32 am

      I always figured it was something I signed up for once but had forgotten about.

    • Jacques Snyman
      October 5, 2008 at 10:36 am

      Hmmmm, seems we’ve all experienced “spam” from them!

    • andrew
      October 5, 2008 at 2:40 pm

      seems that I’m not the only one getting spam from them. They’re big time spammers.

      • X-Factor Blog
        October 5, 2008 at 7:27 pm

        No, you are not the only one…
        No idea where they get their email, spam lists from but after a few months every email address I create seems to get their rubbish in their in box.

    • Action Sports
      October 5, 2008 at 9:03 pm

      add me to the spammed by WPN list

      • Jacques Snyman
        October 6, 2008 at 2:25 am

        Maybe we must all spam them right back….heheheheh

        • QuickPWN
          October 9, 2008 at 3:49 am

          Well then that would be just as bad as what they did, LOL! :P

    • Zurpit
      October 7, 2008 at 7:36 am

      I too have gotten those emails pretty annoying

    • Zeeshan
      October 20, 2008 at 6:17 pm

      I’ve been getting their spammy emails too, I tried removing myself via their unsubscribe links and then by contacting their email support addresses and finally I gave up and decided to place a block at the mail server level.

      There’s no point in receiving their emails on the email server if you’re only going to go and delete them by hand.

  3. Dick
    October 5, 2008 at 6:51 am

    I think such information would be of interest to many people.

  4. Danny Cooper
    October 5, 2008 at 6:51 am

    I thought it was commentators?

  5. Tamish
    October 5, 2008 at 7:43 am

    Hey the video gets stuck in between.

    • Tamish
      October 5, 2008 at 7:46 am

      I tried it twice and it gets stuck in middle.

      • Danny Cooper
        October 5, 2008 at 8:02 am

        It keeps stopping and playing for me, but I think that’s my crappy internet.

        • coderbari
          October 5, 2008 at 8:22 am

          It always happens here when I see any video or listen to
          any audio online – its my real slow internet connection.
          BTW interesting interview.

        • Goran Website
          October 7, 2008 at 3:23 am

          It must be your internet connection.

        • QuickPWN
          October 9, 2008 at 3:48 am

          It must be your Internet connection because it’s working fine for me. :)

      • Borgo7
        October 5, 2008 at 10:09 am

        Me too…

    • Moneybites
      October 5, 2008 at 11:46 am

      Works for me now..

    • andrew
      October 5, 2008 at 2:41 pm

      strange…it’s loading just fine for me

  6. Kok Choon
    October 5, 2008 at 8:17 am

    I saw this video on John Chow blog…I never though commenting will get your blog in the legal issues…!

    • Tamish
      October 5, 2008 at 8:20 am

      Really Internet is getting lamer everyday.

    • mrkbsm
      October 5, 2008 at 10:46 am

      I think part of it is a matter of who “owns” the comments once they’re posted, the commentator or the website. I think there have been court cases trying to argue both ways. If a comment constitutes libel, and it can be argued that Shoe owns that comment, well then Shoe can get in trouble. The same goes with any site or blog – it doesn’t take much to drum up a lawsuit!

      • Tushar Dhoot
        October 5, 2008 at 12:47 pm

        Yea, but you can’t really sue somebody for libel on a user posted comment as long as Shoe follows the plaintiff’s request to remove the comment.

        • mrkbsm
          October 5, 2008 at 8:23 pm

          Sure you can. It’s America, you need 2 things for a lawsuit: a lawyer, and a checkbook. :)
          In this case, I’d imagine one could sue on damage that’s already been done…. how long was the comment up, how many people read it, etc.

  7. Bryn Youngblut
    October 5, 2008 at 8:19 am

    I wonder exactly what happened with the comments and having to go to court, that’s crazy man.

  8. Steven-Sanders
    October 5, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Saw this on John’s website. Was a great interview.

    • Andrei Buiu
      October 5, 2008 at 11:38 am

      I saw it also on John’s blog. Great interview indeed.

  9. Efitpedia
    October 5, 2008 at 10:54 am

    great interview, its crazy you had to go to court because comments or posts.

    • Ari - Laberinto Social
      October 5, 2008 at 11:37 am

      yeah that part was wild, but i can see that happening. with noteriaty comes that sort of thing…

    • SMM Guru
      October 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm

      I agree… People need to stop taking the internet so seriously.

  10. Ari - Laberinto Social
    October 5, 2008 at 11:36 am

    that was a nice summary of things. attorney general and all…

    but on the point of ID and threats, that is why i dont think its cool to have your name and face splattered cuz you get that kind of “action” by some with more time than anything else…

  11. Moneybites
    October 5, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Solid interview, a guy actually tattooed you on him, I didn’t know that..

    • SMM Guru
      October 5, 2008 at 1:03 pm

      There are some strange people out there.

    • andrew
      October 5, 2008 at 2:45 pm

      can you imagine that ? That’s crazy. Shoe is like a rock star.

    • Action Sports
      October 5, 2008 at 9:05 pm

      that’s kind of scary/creepy…. shoe, watch out for this guy, sounds like the stalker type.

    • CanJohn
      October 6, 2008 at 6:00 am

      I hope he got some quality links back for that one?

      • Zurpit
        October 7, 2008 at 7:37 am

        wow that is crazy and kind of creepy, there are some strange people out there

    • QuickPWN
      October 9, 2008 at 3:47 am

      I thought that was really weird. Whoever does that must really LOVE Jeremy. :D

  12. Stephanie
    October 5, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Great tips. It’s a tricky world we live in. I had someone threaten to sue me over some posts someone made on a forum of mine one. That one has been generally ruled as not the forum owners problem, as I understand it, and I think blog comments will probably go the same way, so long as you aren’t over moderating what gets posted.

    • Jacques Snyman
      October 6, 2008 at 2:48 am

      Freedom of speech is an inalienable human right and one of the cornerstones of democracy. The law can get quite sticky if slander can be proven, however I am all for getting it out there, so people can be aware and indulge in discussion of controversial topics.

    • QuickPWN
      October 9, 2008 at 3:44 am

      That’s not right, each user is responsible for their own posts. If you’re an Admin or a Mod it is still your role to moderate the forums and remove unnecessary topics that are causing a lot of fights in the forums. It’s better to just remove them and get on with the forums.

  13. patel
    October 5, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    exactly Why I moderate on old posts! Threats against U, who the hell would do that? and why.. true that most people should focus on quality than SEO …. People have more power than computers :)

  14. Rekzai
    October 5, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    I get so many spammers that I’m thinking of enabling Akismet

    • Action Sports
      October 5, 2008 at 9:05 pm

      umm, why wouldn’t you enable that anyways??

  15. teamray
    October 5, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    Death threats wow some people needs to get a life.

    • Jacques Snyman
      October 6, 2008 at 2:49 am

      Seems like they’re more intent on taking life….

  16. Jonclaude
    October 5, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    Good interview, People should taking the Internet seriously.
    But what’s happened for the comments… that’s very doggy.

  17. andrew
    October 5, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    You are right about the “screw google” mentality that we should have. If everyone would concentrate on this, the internet will be a better place

  18. meethere
    October 5, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    webpronews are great.. good interview..

  19. Chris
    October 5, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    good content, ok interview

  20. Ben - frogstr.com
    October 5, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Good stuff, I liked the interview. I was actually quite surprised to learn you received death threats in the past…Man…

    • Action Sports
      October 5, 2008 at 9:06 pm

      jealous hater is all… unbelievable but i guess some people really get that mad that others make money and they don’t.

    • Moneybites
      October 6, 2008 at 6:53 am

      Yeah, that’s shocking, some people def take things way too far.

    • QuickPWN
      October 9, 2008 at 3:42 am

      He has a big blog and a 4 year old blog so he must have experienced a lot of things. It’s sad how a lot of people can be on the Internet sitting behind their computers. In real life they are totally different, but on the Internet they’re sitting behind proxies hidden and getting with whatever they’re doing.

  21. MAtt Borden
    October 5, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    ehhh well I am all for bloging, but its not so cool being in court. I hope over time I learn the wisdom to be able to spot those kind of things and nip them in the bud. On a side note, Jeremy, thanks for all your great advice. Its practical and real, and I appreciate that.

  22. Peter Davis
    October 6, 2008 at 12:27 am

    The threats against my family are the ones that really bother me. Motivated me to start doing target shooting. Dogs and the electric fence are good too.

  23. WannaT
    October 6, 2008 at 2:19 am

    Very insightful video. Missed it on Chow’s blog.

  24. zncustombuilding
    October 6, 2008 at 4:20 am

    nice video…… informative and surprising at same time thanks for the post….

  25. atlanta wedding photographer
    October 6, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    great information about being passionate about what you are doing and writing what you want to write about ….aka content. people follow what people say and their personality and not your ranking. no body looking for information is concerned about pr. they just want the information.

    • QuickPWN
      October 9, 2008 at 3:51 am

      I know, we should all be focusing on the content more and listening to our users instead of just increasing our revenue and making multiple useless websites.

  26. Eva White
    October 7, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    That’s a nice interview. I agree with Buffet being the greatest example to follow.

  27. QuickPWN
    October 9, 2008 at 3:40 am

    You had some very great tips in there Jeremy, thanks for sharing them with us. We all need to remember that CONTENT is king, and that’s what every blog keeps repeating. Instead of creating multiple blogs, or splogs to make *temporary* $20/day from Adsense we could be using that effort to make one quality website making far more than that. I made that mistake and I’m regretting it. I will be focusing on my main websites now instead of trying to make quick money. Thanks for the reminder Jeremy.

  28. Zeeshan
    October 20, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    The part at 3:40-3:30, where you mention about that chap who tattooed a caricature of you, was really funny!

    heh, “… don’t kill me, I was nice to you! …”

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