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Could Shawn Collins Be Any More Jealous Of The Top Affiliate Challenge

Posted July 15th, 2008 by Jeremy Schoemaker

I just saw Shawn “The Hustler” Collins video talking about the Top Affiliate Challenge. I am not even going to link to the video because it has like 90 views and I am not going to give the attention starved whore any more.

Its sad he thinks he is “The Judge” of the affiliate industry.

He runs a conference and he is good at that because he is a “hustler”. Pretty much all the top Affiliates have the same question when it comes to Shawn Collins? What the hell have you ever done in Affiliate Marketing (besides work for companies)? And I know this because the question comes up all the fricking time.

Before the show started on my blog and on my radio show I said that I said the show would be probably be entertaining and have some drama and maybe… just maybe someone might be able to learn something. I even railed a bit on the first 2 episodes when I was frustrated they did not show my whiteboard sessions when I went step by step on how to build a successful affiliate website.

So why is “The Hustler” acting like this?

A very quick search of the blogosphere for the LAST YEAR shows that the Top Affiliate Challenge has more then 5x the amount of mentions as the Affiliate Summit (the conference Shawn Collins hosts).

Affilaite Summit

VS

Top Affiliate Challenge

Note: click on the images for the exact searches. The searches are done in quotes for accuracy.

So here is another thing. Shawn was asked if he wanted to participate as a Guru but he passed… And that is fine… The show had no expectations of being a huge hit at that time… but now that it has all this attention (bad or good) he wants to play Monday morning quarterback and criticize it.

He has in his blog and in his video made fun of the fact that in the video they say that the gurus will , “teach you more in 15 minutes then you can learn in years”. I agree that is a far fetch.

But this is a fact – While Shawn Collins might have many, many more years experience talking and writing about Affiliate Marketing I personally have already forgotten more about MAKING MONEY in the affiliate marketing industry then he will ever know.

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108 comments. What say you?

  1. Good Comment?
    Feed My Wii

    this was my absolute favorite part of the post. shawn you just got served sucka

    “But this is a fact – While Shawn Collins might have many, many more years experience talking and writing about Affiliate Marketing I personally have already forgotten more about MAKING MONEY in the affiliate marketing industry then he will ever know”

  2. Good Comment?
    Godaddy Coupons

    I don’t think he can get more jealous

  3. Good Comment?
    Web Hosting Rebates

    Yeah, the show was a disaster. I felt bad for the contestants and gurus, who I’m sure thought they were involved with a legit production (level of Next Internet Millionaire or better)

  4. Good Comment?
    Web Hosting Rebates

    I still haven’t seen any data on number of views for the show, but it couldn’t have come close the 1 million Thor was pitching to advertisers, could it?

  5. Good Comment?
    Godaddy Coupons and Promo Codes

    Let him be jealous

  6. Good Comment?
    ShoeMoney

    lol… If I was going to rig this for someone don’t you would think it would be someone in the US where it does not cost me 4x as much in shipping to send shirts =P

  7. Good Comment?
    Web Hosting Rebates

    Seriously, what does this SQL query look like? Choose a random number with php then “SELECT username FROM comments WHERE (commentID={randomNumber} AND date={today}) OR username=’Chetan’ AND date={today} LIMIT 1,0″?

  8. Good Comment?
    Web Marketeer

    Brian, you raise a very pertinent point. Fresh content is king, and rehashing other people’s work ad nauseum sure as hell don’t qualify one as an expert!

  9. Good Comment?
    Web Hosting Rebates

    I disagree – they won’t be able to do it again with more capital, because they have proven that they produce a lousy product. Who would want to sponsor that, knowing what the production quality and viewership numbers will be. This was a colossal fail on nearly every front.

  10. Good Comment?
    Web Hosting Rebates

    Yeah, his comments were spot on. The show was a major disappointment and overall very ill-conceived.

  11. Good Comment?
    Web Marketeer

    By KO, not submission…..LOL

  12. Good Comment?
    Web Marketeer

    LOL! People sure can be petty and spiteful, especially if they weren’t part of a process!

  13. Good Comment?
    Web Marketeer

    I would like to see that too! Let’s all clamour for this to happen! Who knows, maybe our wishes will be realized!

  14. Good Comment?
    Web Marketeer

    That’s one of the things I like about Jeremy, he doesn’t pull punches!

  15. Good Comment?
    Josh

    Negro please. This has Shoe-style linkbait all over it. And, its working! :-)

  16. Good Comment?
    Godaddy Coupons and Promo Codes

    90 views? is that supposed to be a lot?

  17. Good Comment?
    Web Hosting Rebates

    Because TAC was almost exclusively hype machine. Thor spent too much time promoting the show and not enough time planning its execution. If he produced quality content, it would have gone viral naturally. Prior planning prevents poor performance – in this case, the lack of planning ensured poor performance.

  18. Good Comment?
    zing

    Finally someone called this stuttering dumbass out. Amazing post!

  19. Good Comment?
    Gordon

    I don’t get why you are so mad. Pretty much everything he said was dead on true.

    The script is hokey
    the commercials are lame and poorly targeted.
    The ring is just about the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen
    I didn’t learn a single thing in the first 2 episodes either

    I don’t think he is jealous in the slightest. I think he is thanking his lucky stars he didn’t show up for this.

    Now, you can argue it is in poor form for him to trash the show given his position in the industry / that he was invited to be on the show etc but I don’t think he is jealous.

    I hope they do the show again, learn from their mistakes and make it a show everyone can actually learn from…..

  20. Good Comment?
    DAK

    Dude, now that was funny!

  21. Good Comment?
    Paul

    At least they gave it a shot. It is not always perfect the first time around. If they made enough money and got enough attention., they can do the show again with more capitol and adjust the mistakes they made the first time.

  22. Good Comment?
    Marco

    Shawn Collins wasn’t nasty & spoke nothing but the truth in his video.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=-aRy51wQGwM.

    I watched all the TAC shows, & I enjoyed it. But I have to agree with his opinion of the show.

  23. Good Comment?
    Bubba

    Top Affiliate Challenge sucks ballz!!! If you hire a professional camera man, a professional editor, q few good writers and a REAL host that can speak proper English than maybe, maybe you’ll make it interesting. So far in my opinion a total disaster of a show. But hey time will tell.

  24. Good Comment?
    Geiger

    Oooooh… somebody just get served?

  25. Good Comment?
    Autox

    It’s so easy for Shawn to snip at someone else’s work, rather than produce his own.

  26. Good Comment?
    JJDW

    Most people gave up by the 2nd or 3rd episode. I know I did!

  27. Good Comment?
    Brian

    There’s those that do and those that talk about doing. Collins and the uber nothing Sam Harrelson are two that just regurgitate techcrunch and other news blogs.

    No original views, news, or tips between the two of them.

    Honestly that’s why I took my own blog down. I found myself just posting the same posts as everyone else and contributing very little new stuff.

    Instead, I have shifted all my time from working on a fruitless effort to affiliate sites that make me money. Since the refocus, I have seen a 25+% increase in affiliate revenue. A much better ROI.

    Anyway, the Internet would be better off if they followed suit and stopped the mundane repetitive posts that are already out there.

  28. Good Comment?
    webprofessor

    Weak?

    Give me a break the show sucked its as simple as that. How great Shoe is at affiliate marketing or the limits of the budget are irrelevant to the issue.

  29. Good Comment?
    Barman

    You are away that Top Affiliate Challenge sucks and provides no value to anybody, whereas AS provides a lot of value to many people, experienced and new.

  30. Good Comment?
    olimpic

    Very interesting discussion. continue please

  31. Good Comment?
    Mubin

    Controversy is good for links.

    Whats with the new gravatar icon?

  32. Good Comment?
    Eric Nagel

    about 2,450 for “top affiliate challenge”
    about 219 for “affiliate summit”
    (refresh)
    about 21,398 for “affiliate summit”

    Can’t really rely on these figures, then, as the “proof” of your argument, if Google changes their mind on nearly every refresh.

  33. Good Comment?
    Eric Martindale

    To be honest, that’s not that much of a difference. D:

  34. Good Comment?
    Jagdeep

    quit comment spamming ffs

  35. Good Comment?
    Kevin L

    I guess you guys aren’t close.

  36. Good Comment?
    big jason

    so why pay it any attention. best to ignore it

  37. Good Comment?
    Dick

    Show created for the people. People need fun. This means that the show should be cheerful. -)))))

  38. Good Comment?
    Make Money Talks

    I love morning popcorn, especially if it’s drama on forum, but still blog drama looks good :)

  39. Good Comment?
    Harry

    I see lot of people bad mouthing this show. I guess people are making it more popular by bad mouthing.

  40. Good Comment?
    Peter

    Why does Top Affiliate Challenge not even offer an RSS feed? How about a video podcast for iTunes too?

  41. Good Comment?
    Asmaa

    As much as i would like to watch these episodes my server bans the videos!! ughhh

  42. Good Comment?
    Wesley

    And, fight!

  43. Good Comment?
    Mike Huang

    Hmmm…the TAC isn’t all that great so I wonder why he would be jealous :P

    -Mike

  44. Good Comment?
    fred

    shoe – don’t confuse quantity and quality. Anyone who says TAF is worth anything is a fool. I know many people who have watched it for the same reason they look at a car crash, cause you just can’t help it. That does not mean the people watching have any respect for the show or anyone on it.
    But nice link bait, you are good at that, and you have enough idiots to make it work, good job tools, drink the shoewater

  45. Good Comment?
    Movies

    I’ll be the first one to say thanks if Shoemoney decide to do it.

  46. Good Comment?
    Ricky

    I love rants.

  47. Good Comment?
    Amirulcyber

    nice and sweet article.thanks..

  48. Good Comment?
    Goran Website

    Did you do your search in quotes?

  49. Good Comment?
    Goran Website

    That would amount to some quality content I think all of us will appreciate. That is the reason for frequenting this blog. To learn.

  50. Good Comment?
    Goran Website

    Seems like he is riding the coat tails of this to garner personal exposure. Good on you for not posting a link to his clip, Shoe.

  51. Good Comment?
    Bryn Youngblut

    Seems a little odd and far fetched.

  52. Good Comment?
    DealDasher

    sweet, “Affiliate Cage Fighting”. Love the rant.

  53. Good Comment?
    meethere

    what’s this wickedfire all about ?

  54. Good Comment?
    Eva White

    I guess this is the only way for him to make up on all the publicity he lost by not being on the show.

  55. Good Comment?
    meethere

    whatever, the show is going is popular.. :D

  56. Good Comment?
    Mike1115

    I’d say it looks fishy since that post was just created and it’s the guy’s first post.It’s also odd that AS has been going on for years and no one has ever brought that up.You’d think that would have gotten out by now if it was being sold. But, we’ll find out soon enough.

  57. Good Comment?
    Chetan

    They always are ready to come and bash up, you should check the forums.. there are some interesting stories always and they are harsh to the outer world people!

  58. Good Comment?
    james

    What do you think about the affiliate summit selling all the attendee addresses?

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=8523752

  59. Good Comment?
    jim

    Yeah I think that would be valuable, could be a good second video post.

  60. Good Comment?
    jim

    It does seem a bit out of character for him, then again I only know what I see online.

  61. Good Comment?
    Zak Show

    I hope but what I notice that the challenge is going down especially when a big contestant like Jeremy leave and even John Chow don’t blog much about it these last days. But I really hope that things come back to normal for the max exposure of the show and the challenge.

  62. Good Comment?
    Zak Show

    Yes, that what I wanna say, just give him more time!

  63. Good Comment?
    Zak Show

    Jeremy for the WIN ;)

  64. Good Comment?
    Zak Show

    I got 21.385 here for affiliate summit and 2.444 for TAC, Weird!

  65. Good Comment?
    Zak Show

    I sew a lot of people complaigning and criticizing the show, WTF is that! I was too excited to see the show starting and I was looking for all the show updates. I was a little bit desperated when I sew you leaving the show but I understand that because of your new born child.
    last week I was surprised when i checked that post in the Zac Johnson blog ” TAC going wrong! ” and even Ian Fernando blog that he’s one from the contestant.
    I hope that things come back to normal soon.

  66. Good Comment?
    sean

    just watched his video and I don’t get why you are so emotional over it.

  67. Good Comment?
    ShoeMoney

    I might be at some events…. never know

  68. Good Comment?
    al

    does this meet we won’t see u at ASE this year? :)

  69. Good Comment?
    sean

    interesting. thanks

  70. Good Comment?
    sean

    nothing like a little controversy to continue to push the rope. you have to admit the TAC was long bouts of lameness peppered with tidbits of interesting. It would have been nice to get a little more insight into what they were actually doing with some examples…maybe that is what comes when the content is repurposed.

  71. Good Comment?
    browie

    Thanks for the rant. I needed that, I was getting tired of making comments in other people’s blog where they complained about the show. Like you mentioned on your video, “what were you expecting? a production done just like The Real World” pffft.

  72. Good Comment?
    joe

    I don’t really care about this argument or whatever is going on but I do care about winning a macbook air WOO

  73. Good Comment?
    Mike

    LOL @ 445 hits my cat could make a website and get more search engine hits than that!

  74. Good Comment?
    amer1can paratrooper

    In this case, I like to use one of my favorite addages: jealousy will get you no where.

  75. Good Comment?
    Greenovni

    Hey Shoe, Is it me or are these people who consider themselves “Gurus” start acting like little bitches (Could not find another word to describe them) when they get a little famous?

    I make a little bit of $ online and hopefully when everything “clicks” I’ll be able to be like you and the rest of the “gurus” (in $) but to me it’s all about the $$ . . . Screw the fame.

    By the way, Congrats on your new baby . . . all the best to your wife :)

    Greenovni

  76. Good Comment?
    top affiliate

    You must spend a lot of $ on therapy, Jeremy.

    Looks like you are the one with some weird jealousy issues.

  77. Good Comment?
    Mike1115

    Anyone here actually see the video? It was posted a week ago after the second show and the worst thing he said was he was underwhelmed by it and he’d give it another chance. Thor made a comment on the post, thanked Shawn, and said he plans to get a booth for TOC at Affiliate Summit. So?

  78. Good Comment?
    Sohan

    Yep, mine showed the same.

  79. Good Comment?
    Dave

    Shoe, forget the links whats the affiliate funded bank statement look like?

  80. Good Comment?
    Rekzai

    shawn vs jeremy steel cage match

  81. Good Comment?
    DotDriven

    Shoe, don’t fall for the linkbait!!!

  82. Good Comment?
    Bryn Youngblut

    That would be awesome, I saw him drawing the whiteboard in the first episode then they cut it off I was like WTF?

  83. Good Comment?
    Bryn Youngblut

    Yeah I know I’m just saying, theres two sides to every story.

  84. Good Comment?
    mcQ

    comment #3 : Freaking Chetan is set to win the notebook … he is already getting three shirts…ahah… J. r u gonna send him the shirts in 3 sizes? He must be one lucky guy with 3 wins under his belt in just a few days.

    I encourage him to buy a lotto ticket in my city (through me)..lol

  85. Good Comment?
    mcQ

    BTW… just like any other blogger… he needs to creat a buzz…a controversy…something so people could comment on and then return to see a response from the admin blogger or other ‘commenters’ … hook or crook…he is just working on his site traffic…

  86. Good Comment?
    big jason

    i think he can get more jealous. just give him time shoe

  87. Good Comment?
    mcQ

    Totally… Shoe u owe it to your devot blog readers … I think it would be awesome to learn from u.

  88. Good Comment?
    Craig

    Do you think you could get your hands on that video of the whiteboard sessions and post on here for everyone to learn from?

  89. Good Comment?
    ajaz

    I bet he comes out with a similar challenge in the near future.

  90. Good Comment?
    Bryn Youngblut

    No offense but your still helping him out even with this post, link or no link. Just mentioning his name is publicity, good or bad it still works. But hey I ramble on all the time about stuff that annoys me.

  91. Good Comment?
    ShoeMoney

    the screenshots were from my computer… I guess people are seeing different results. I linked to the queries for a reason =(

  92. Good Comment?
    zack

    I think a lot of people are ripping on the show because we’d like to see more of the meat of the actual process.

    Makes me think I should create a race to the top show. Two teams. No reality crap. Only one team will win. And the whole process will be shown. More education, less reality.

  93. Good Comment?
    therealdeal

    Shawn is an a$$hole!

    He tried outing some RINGTONE people a year or so back for the use of the word “free”. When I posted some shit about his “good friend” on his blog and how he was violating the same shit he was blogging about, he deleted my comment.

  94. Good Comment?
    Movies

    i got 21,381 and 2,444 for TAC…big discrepancy between my search results and Shoemoney’s, at least for the first one

    Anyway, I enjoyed watching Top Affiliate Challenge. Learned some new things also.

  95. Good Comment?
    Lyndon

    Prior to you mentioning him, I’d never heard of Shawn before. Don’t know why he’s bitter, he had an opportunity to participate and he passed. The only one he has to blame is himself.

  96. Good Comment?
    Dorm Room Biz

    I just tried the link too for “affiliate summit” and came up with 21,324 results.

  97. Good Comment?
    EntreBlast

    No one knew what to expect from TAC- but everyone was watching it to see what WOULD happen = big exposure.

  98. Good Comment?
    Dorm Room Biz

    Get ‘em Shoe! I wouldn’t mind seeing that whiteboard session recreated and posted on here either!

  99. Good Comment?
    louis

    shows 400 for me here

  100. Good Comment?
    Rich Hill

    Shoe.
    Don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

    LOL

  101. Good Comment?
    NBJames

    hmm looking at one of his pages he likes to throw out some crazy quotes too….

    “Shawn Collins, called “one of the Net’s most astute affiliate program managers” ”

    UMM OK!

  102. Good Comment?
    Kyle

    I got 21,335 or “affiliate summit”…..using your link too.

  103. Good Comment?
    Margie

    Jeremy do not forget Shawn’s Gurus that keynote Affiliate Summit. Like Jason Calacanis and this year the Mayor of Newark. HAH

  104. Good Comment?
    ShoeMoney

    right because the wf guys have been holding back on me… lols

  105. Good Comment?
    eastbaynic

    uh ohh now his wickedfire crew is going to come after you!

  106. Good Comment?
    dan

    Screw ‘em man. Maybe you could recreate that whiteboard scene for your blog and throw up video.

  107. Good Comment?
    NBJames

    Shoe – I think its weak for Shawn to attack the show. It was obviously done on a extremely limited budget and especially being you had to pull out with what you were going through with your new baby I think they did pretty good.

    I do not know why he is acting so weird lately

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