Jen and I were getting ready to do the show and testing our cameras. We logged in to our Live Yahoo account and people started showing up in the chat. We twittered for peope to come to the Yahoo! Live chat… Evidently someone at Yahoo! still has a beef.
All of a sudden it said we had been banned. WTF Yahoo! ?????
I later got this email.
Dear shoemoneyshow
By creating and using your Yahoo! account, you agree to abide by
Yahoo!’s Terms of Service (TOS). Pursuant to the TOS, Yahoo! reserves
the right to terminate your account or otherwise prohibit use of your
account in the event that, among other things, Yahoo! believes that you
have violated or acted inconsistently with the letter or spirit of the
TOS.It has come to our attention that you may have violated the TOS
(http://www.yahoo.com/r/ts).
Please reread the TOS and cease any use of your account that may
violate the TOS.If your use of your Yahoo! account is brought to our attention again,
and we believe that such use violates the TOS, then we may terminate
your account without further notice.Please do not reply to this email. Any questions concerning Yahoo!’s
Services should be submitted through the on-line form in the help area
( http://help.yahoo.com ).-Yahoo!
Which makes it sound like its a temporary thing…. but as you can see its not.
Actually getting booted from Yahoo! was the best thing that happened to us. Ustream has a much better service.
For those asking on twitter and in comments the beef with Yahoo goes back quite a while.
There was the whole myblog log thing (which turned into like 5 smaller things). Yahoo publicly apologized but there have been hard feelings since. I still cant access mybloglog.
Then the whole yahoo search marketing pr nightmare for them
June 3, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Why did they ban you? That’s weird. Ah, well glad you benefited from it. Sucks for yahoo, because over 100 people were watching the show with Ustream.
June 3, 2008 at 8:18 pm
“”Evidently someone at Yahoo! still has a beef.”" would love to hear this story
June 3, 2008 at 8:22 pm
I’m wondering the same thing. I haven’t read their TOS but did tune in to one of the live shows and nothing seemed out of the ordinary or ban-worthy. UStream is a good service though and a very worthy, if not better, alternative to Y! Live from what I’ve read.
June 3, 2008 at 8:22 pm
hahaha that’s comedic, it would’ve been more credible if they said what you did… their email was BS. oh well, everyone else who does this stuff uses ustream anyway
June 3, 2008 at 8:24 pm
YaWho?
You would think with Google being the big guy on the block, YaWho? would want to get their name onto as many computer screens as possible. And with you, they’d have plenty of people following you to do just that.
~Terry
June 3, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I totally agree–Ustream has a much better set of services than Yahoo Live. I was using Yahoo for streaming events several times this past spring, but it just seems, well, clunkier than Ustream.
June 3, 2008 at 8:41 pm
LOL! Absolutely everything Yahoo does these days is stupid.
June 3, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Thanks for keeping the spirit going for all us kats and kittens in cyberspace. Don’t you worry about a thing. Much love and aloha
June 3, 2008 at 8:51 pm
P.S. we love your show
aloha from Crazy Joe’s SurfLounge.com
June 3, 2008 at 8:55 pm
They block you so that they could get a free review from your blog, lol… I think you need to pay them for your planned broadcast Shaz.
June 3, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Haha dumbasses
June 3, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Hehe first dmoz extortion.. And now yahoo live chat ban. Whats up with the web and Shoemoney?
June 3, 2008 at 11:25 pm
I just learned you used to be real fat, shoemoney…congrats on all that weightloss
June 4, 2008 at 12:04 am
Is it because you’re streaming for a webmaster radio show?
June 4, 2008 at 1:14 am
They did not even gave an exact reason why they banned you, weird. I also think they wanted some free review haha
June 4, 2008 at 1:23 am
As you said USTREAM is a good service. And while listening the service stop 1 times just
for a second and i think its because of my internet connection. I tried to understand what you are talking about and i did it 80%. Because i dont have a good English. I can understand what i read but while listening sometimes i miss pronunciations. But if we look at as a whole its helpful to improve myself and my English. Thanks.
June 4, 2008 at 2:20 am
Yahoo is shit, duh!
June 4, 2008 at 3:33 am
haha thats great they will regret that ! neg press ! Anyway sounds like you are now using a better service !
June 4, 2008 at 3:57 am
Its just that ustreamtv is better than Yahoo! Live, Yesterdays show was really awesome, I really enjoyed it, I was trying to call you, but your phone was really busy
June 4, 2008 at 4:26 am
justin.tv is another good option
June 4, 2008 at 5:44 am
Yahoo’s gone CRAZY!!
June 4, 2008 at 5:54 am
Am I the only one thinking that these types of blogposts is kinda low.
If you have a problem with a person or company, take it up with them.
Continue your posts on how to make money on the web instead, and not how to nag and complain about stuff that any overpriviliged millionaire like yourself should be able to hack anyways.
June 4, 2008 at 6:27 am
Yahoo don’t want to be good guy!
June 4, 2008 at 6:29 am
Can this blog post rank first page for “Yahoo” if so, this would fuckin ruin their reputation.
Try if you can. You know revenge
June 4, 2008 at 6:41 am
Yahoo can’t even figure out how to keep easily-identified spam out of an inbox. They have sucked big time for quite a while.
June 4, 2008 at 6:44 am
The time has come to get rid of the top commenters plugin.
June 4, 2008 at 7:03 am
yes, u stream is waaayyy better than yahoo!
June 4, 2008 at 7:38 am
I was banned from yahoo answers, it was my own fault but still lol. FU Yahoo
June 4, 2008 at 8:16 am
It sure seems like to have had your share of problems with them but it sounds like your doing ok with out them and MyBlogLog sucks ever since they stuck there noises in it.
June 4, 2008 at 8:16 am
Cool, another bookmarked site to use later.
Maybe the Internet is turning against you. It doesn’t like it when anyone gets too powerful. The Silicon Valley Cartel is out for you.
June 4, 2008 at 8:16 am
I am still waiting for Yahoo to add Scheduling into their ads. They said it was coming soon back at PubCon in December. They are just full of S. I wasn’t sure about Microsoft buying them before, but now I am.
June 4, 2008 at 8:18 am
Man, Yahoo just can not seem to keep it together. They are like a large truck on a downhill icey road with wet brakes! Its not going to end well for them.
Anyway, I am glad to see the show on the new host. It is much better over there!
June 4, 2008 at 8:27 am
I think it’s too late to ruin Yahoo’s rep. They have already done it themselves, big time.
June 4, 2008 at 8:44 am
It would be interesting which rule you broke. If there isn’t one, someone should lose his privileges to ban accounts…
June 4, 2008 at 9:07 am
Sounds like getting banned by Yahoo did you as much good as it did me some years ago.
June 4, 2008 at 9:11 am
I agree U stream is better. Not only is it faster but I find it doesn’t slow down my internet at all when I’m on a slower connection.
June 4, 2008 at 9:25 am
They are always beefing each other…shoe and yahoo are enemies ever since that mybloglog saga the faces hasnt been cool.
June 4, 2008 at 9:26 am
im going to check out the ustream but what yahoo doesnt know is that they are lossing alot of valued customers fuck em anyways!
June 4, 2008 at 9:33 am
Wow, that really sucks eh, I can feel your anger bubbling! and it makes me angry too!
Time to bring out the chainsaw
June 4, 2008 at 9:36 am
yea yahoo is fucking lossing it. They are lacking good management. it is not getting the whole programs on there but managing the damn programs that makes the difference…they are fucking lossing it!
June 4, 2008 at 9:38 am
yea i second to that that yahoo is full of shit. i dont know when they are gonna change! one day im gonna run them down and run over their asses!
June 4, 2008 at 10:02 am
Just when I think Yahoo can’t get any stupider, they do.
The latest thing where they claim the right to execute “optimizations” on YSM accounts at will and without prior consent (see sphinn today) is the last straw.
June 4, 2008 at 10:21 am
Yahoo is digging themselves into the ground. They’ve already got the worst customer service on the planet, nothing like a couple of rogue employees to top that off.
June 4, 2008 at 10:48 am
It’s sad the way that things are going right now at Yahoo! I hope they are able to turn things around.
June 4, 2008 at 11:05 am
Interesting. So there *are* people behind the Yahoo! Live product? I’ve had tech support issues for 3 months now and have been trying to contact them to no avail. It’s ridiculous. If you have an email address on file, Jeremy, please send it over.
June 4, 2008 at 11:44 am
What I hate about violation of TOS, doesn’t matter if it’s Yahoo, Google, or anybody, is they always warn you with a canned letter. It would be nice if they actually TELL US why they are banning us (ie. which item on the TOS we are violating) so we can get things fixed.
June 4, 2008 at 12:42 pm
i really don’t understand why yahoo wants to piss-off industry leaders
June 4, 2008 at 12:43 pm
hey shoe,
what is the software you use to create pic-in-pic and to have stuff on the live video?
June 4, 2008 at 12:43 pm
check the favorite post at the top left of the site. whole story…
June 4, 2008 at 12:45 pm
it seems they are trying to make money versus services the users will enjoy (which in turn make money)…
June 4, 2008 at 12:46 pm
i agree, i was impressed with the service yesterday
June 4, 2008 at 1:15 pm
lol.
thats what make google dominate yahoo.
June 4, 2008 at 1:51 pm
for those that did not watch, it is definitely worth it. this is probably the most “CONTENT” i have seen in a post on any blog in a long time. btw, he mentions ballpark figure on what he paid from fighters.com…
June 4, 2008 at 1:52 pm
wrong page… sorry
June 4, 2008 at 2:06 pm
I agree with you goomark, whats going on at Yahoo.
June 4, 2008 at 2:08 pm
They say all advertising good or bad is good advertising as people only remember the brand and not what the brand did, unless its a personal experience, so what you say makes sense, Discount Web Design
June 4, 2008 at 2:13 pm
So what did you really do….
June 4, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Yahoo is getting sued by share holders for not what is the legal term forget it. By not selling out to Yahoo their share holders claim that they are not being taken care of. And I have heard that one of Yahoos largest share holder is planning to take control of the company.
June 4, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Things like this are just one of the many reasons why Yahoo can’t play with the big dogs at Google. They do one thing after another when there services are being surpassed by all kinds of companies. Yahoo at one time was good, now everyone is doing everything better than them. Dugg.
June 4, 2008 at 9:44 pm
stickam.com is good too. They already have a built in audience and have people doing radio broadcast and all on them also.
June 5, 2008 at 12:54 am
Your grudge against Yahoo is turning into a big joke. Just drop it, you’re making yourself look like a complete dipsh!t
June 5, 2008 at 3:06 am
You should reply with your previous article STFU!!
June 5, 2008 at 7:35 am
you r right. i just take a look and its doing great.
June 5, 2008 at 9:03 am
I guess they just decided that they hate Shoe and are applying this to every aspect of their business. What an F-ing PR disaster on their part.
June 5, 2008 at 9:05 am
Dump them! Yahoo can’t seem to do anything right nowadays. They even try to get rid of the Microsoft bid, then cry about it when it’s gone.
June 5, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I agree, TOS are used for lawyers to speak to each other. Tell us laymans what we have done wrong, in English.
June 5, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Ustream is go, but customer service suxs. I like Justin.tv better
June 6, 2008 at 8:15 am
I don’t know about taking control, but he’s putting a lot of pressure on them. Yahoo should have taken the good deal they were offered back in 07.
June 6, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Karl Icon has done the corporate take over before so I wouldn’t put it past him. Of course Yahoo should have taken the deal.
June 6, 2008 at 3:28 pm
This is why I enjoy your site so much – it has that “what’s this guy gonna do next?” appeal.
June 6, 2008 at 6:38 pm
I’ve done great with uStream – broadcast a whole campaign event for 3 days with relatively few hitches, and that was almost a year ago. Regardless, Yahoo!’s service is a nightmare – avoid them at all costs.
June 7, 2008 at 4:24 am
It seems that Yahoo! is indulging in loads of really bad decision making these days. Their loss is Ustream’s gain. May many more disgruntled Yahoo! Live users migrate to this service.
June 10, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Yeah,
Yahoo’s gone CRAZY!!
June 16, 2008 at 7:41 am
You sure can say that again! Just been reading about them losing more top personnel, and their share price dropping significantly this friday gone by (14th)
June 16, 2008 at 7:45 am
Yahoo does seem hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot. Their thought processes and decision making is mind boggling. Oh for a worthy alternative to google!
October 8, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Yahoo wasn’t always the good choice anyway. Many other livestream service also could provide better than this.