How To Evaluate a Internet Property Part 3 - The Run Rate

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This is the 3rd chapter of “How To Evaluate a Internet Property”. You can read part 1 - Financials here and part 2 Rate of growth here.

Run Rate

Often times you will hear big corporations and Venture capitol firms talk about a “run rate”. Run rates are basically a forecast of how much money a website will make over a given time. If no time periods are specified generally the run rate is for 1 year. For instance if a company says based on first quarter earnings of 1 million dollars we are looking at a run rate of 4 million dollars. So that would be the very very basic definition of a run rate… but its not how its most commonly viewed. Every company has trends. If your selling Barbecues you know that every spring your sales are huge. The same with Boats, Rv’s, Motorcycles, Convertible Cars, etc. You get the point. Vice versa it’s the least profitable time if you are selling snow skii’s, snowmobiles, space heaters… etc. Run rates are one of the easiest skewed numbers there are. A run rate can give a favorable or bad forecast for a company determining what is being factored in. A good measurement is to take historical data for the last 5 years and apply the average trends to your 1 year run rate based on 1st quarter numbers. Basically if the last 5 year data shows that 2nd quarter performs historically 25% lower, 3rd quarter performs 10% better and 4th quarter performs 25% better vs 1st quarter now you have some data for your run rate evaluation.

Now that all sounds fine and dandy but on the internet where market trends happen in the blink of an eye the only thing you can count on is that you can’t count on anything. Internet property financial run rates really need to be examined in tune with the rate of growth metrics as mentioned in the last chapter to truly if you a accurate run rate valuation.




Related Posts:

  • How To Evaluate a Internet Property - Resources
  • How to evaluate a internet property part 5 - Legal Issues
  • How To Evaluate a Internet Property Part 2 - Rate of Growth
  • posted on March 24th, 2008:
    Written By: ShoeMoney

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    36 Comments

    @March 24, 2008 10:07 am

    Another great post that will help “newbies” to the online game…:)

    @March 24, 2008 10:19 am

    Help the “newbies”? They don’t have 5 years of data to compare Q1 with.

    /Andreas

    @March 24, 2008 12:09 pm

    It helps the “newbies” learn how to work this out though ;)

    @March 25, 2008 6:39 pm
    Terry Tay Says:

    It may help some of the “veterans” of the internet as well. Some may not really know much about how to evaluate internet properties or run rates.

    Anyone here have a $1 million 1st quarter? :-D
    ~Terry

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    @March 24, 2008 4:42 pm

    I woudl label affiliate marketing more of a game.. where buying a selling websites means business as it can be from 50 dollars to 50 million :)

     
     
    @March 24, 2008 10:14 am
    Michael D Says:

    Run rate in my office is how many times I can get a run in on any given work day. :) Like these posts Jeremy, good stuff.

     
    @March 24, 2008 10:15 am
    devtrench Says:

    This has been an awesome series Jeremy! Just wanted to say thanks for educating us :)

    @March 24, 2008 2:07 pm

    Really have to give him props for posting this series. I sure will check back when I’m out there buying my next site..

     
     
    @March 24, 2008 10:36 am
    David Says:

    No comment.It is great.It will help ”newbies”

     
    @March 24, 2008 11:25 am
    Sean Says:

    run rates also apply to expenses. Best to look at all numbers over time so you can see the variation and hopefully attribute a distribution to the data.

    @March 24, 2008 11:27 am
    ShoeMoney Says:

    Very good point!

    @March 25, 2008 8:36 pm

    I second that.

     
     
     
    @March 24, 2008 11:36 am
    Mark Says:

    I just went through this exact exercise with a friend here in town on his local business. The market is Heating and Air Conditioning… and they were wondering why, after 25 years of local business, they always seem to lose money in Feb-April and Sept-Nov.

    I dont think they had ever looked at the historical info in their financials to scale up or down at the appropriate times of year (Seasonailty) when it comes to labor, overhead etc.

    I will say that in relation to the web - we ran an ecommerce site for 2 full years and the same seasonality that affected their local business was NOT applicable on the ecommerce site. Even though sales in our local market were stunned when mild weather hit… there was always another area of the Country that was either too hot (needed AC related items) or too cold (needed heating related items)…

    Very different animals, local and web, and they need to be evaluated in unison as well as separately.

    Mark

     
    @March 24, 2008 12:55 pm

    lol - run rates, acquisitions, valuations etc etc

    every so-called analyst has their own numbers.

    but in the end…whatever price the buyer and seller meet at, is the perfect ideal price.

     
    @March 24, 2008 1:39 pm
    Rob Says:

    The seasonal nature of a business, and how it affect cash flow, is one of the critical components of valuation, whether brick & mortar or online. Thanks for the primer Shoe.

     
    @March 24, 2008 1:41 pm
    Travis Says:

    I find it especially hard to calculate the run rate of a non-ecommerce site. e-commerce sites are a little easier because they function like BM stores to some extent.

    Sites that rely on advertising for revenue can be tricky to evaluate because they rely on site traffic. A lot of those factors are out of your hands. So you could be doing great this month, then lose some inbound links or PR, and tank the next month.

    I focus mostly on how viable I think the overall idea is. If it’s genius, I think I can make it work.

     
    @March 24, 2008 1:43 pm
    Paul Says:

    I have really enjoyed the new write up about business. I see that you have learned a lot in the years you have been in business. I know you have commented about this before, but maybe you should put together a book “Owning an online business” including chapters about marketing, finance, hiring/firing ect.. At a reasonable price I think your fans would really like it.

     
    @March 24, 2008 1:47 pm

    A while back I was running an operation of custom woodworking through online sales. I used a laser cutter to do the precision cutting, and the rest was a mix of my talents and outsourcing to local companies. One business function I failed to heed was the seasonal variations on my raw materials I sourced for e-commerce. So let this be a warning to newbies, a cold Russian winter can have dire consequences for the next 6 months. Lesson: beware the single source.

     
    @March 24, 2008 4:42 pm

    are you going to suggest next what sites to buy ;) The buyer would love you for it.

     
    @March 24, 2008 6:26 pm

    I really will have to relay these posts to my clients! I also wish we had this kind of ideal set up during the dot-com boom. It would have prevented so much of the volatility we saw in the market at the point in time.

    Great posts!

     
    @March 24, 2008 6:28 pm

    Yea, sometimes it is kind of hard to nail thiings down when they happen “in the blink of an eye.”

     
    @March 24, 2008 6:31 pm
    jtGraphic Says:

    In terms of valuation, is run rate the main attribute in contributing to price? i.e. 5x 1 year run rate = value of company?

    @March 24, 2008 6:35 pm
    ShoeMoney Says:

    Its not quite that simple… each chapter looks at a particular piece.

     
     
    @March 24, 2008 9:30 pm
    sikantis Says:

    Wow, just found this site and I’ve read all 3 parts. Great! Good work!

     
    @March 24, 2008 9:41 pm
    tonyrocks Says:

    Man, I’m hoping my luck changes after reading more about this. I need to send you my latest linkshare check for $2.49. WEEEE.

    @March 25, 2008 8:24 pm

    I don’t think luck will change by reading anyone’s blog. It will just come to you from your hard work, so keep working and you will get your reward.

     
     
    @March 24, 2008 11:07 pm

    i wanna share a little story about trends. when i started online marketing, i was doing the adult niche. and every summer sales are rock bottom. i guess people are going out more during summer, and not stuck at home on their computers.

     
    @March 24, 2008 11:34 pm

    Great post. It’s extremely true that the world of the internet is different than any other business medium. The rules can’t apply here. The environment is anything but predictable.

     
    @March 26, 2008 1:50 am
    Julian Says:

    So if someone evaluates an internet property, he does calculate the growth of the e-business as a whole, too?

     
    @March 26, 2008 10:53 am
    Paul Says:

    Would it be possible to do a write up on how to get in front of venture capitalists that invest mainly in internet companies?

     
    @March 26, 2008 11:13 am
    Eamon Says:

    Interesting and useful post.

    This is a really tricky subject though (and for those who make it to the level that they are able to sell their online business for a good price, then something, certainly, worth thinking about).

     
    @March 27, 2008 12:55 pm
    oakling Says:

    I’ll second the book idea!

     
    @March 29, 2008 8:09 pm
    lags Says:

    interesting, though I’m not into this thing…

     
    @April 2, 2008 12:36 pm

    Great series on valuing web properties. This kinds of ideas don’t get talked about nearly enough. I recently posted a video on how valuing web properties can be related to valuing real estate. I love this stuff. Great post, Shoe.

     
    @April 2, 2008 2:46 pm
    Forumistan Says:

    Great post, thanks…

     

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