Mar 8 2008
Jeremy Schoemaker

Lost Season 4 the Juliet eps

By Jeremy Schoemaker 54 comments

After some of the best ever shows I thought the other night really was weak.

Any thoughts on who Ben’s guy is on the boat? Rebecca Kelly told me she had a theory it was Michael. (the guy who left on the boat with his son in season 2). I thought that was a pretty good theory.

Also who do you think are the Full Oceanic 6? I guess we know Jack, Kate, Hugo, Sayid. We know Claire’s baby makes it but I do not think that kid counts as it was born on the island. I am guessing Claire does not make it since Kate was taking care of her son…

I have to say Sawyer is my favorite.


THERE ARE TONS OF SPOILERS IN THE COMMENTS BE WARNED

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    Sheila said on March 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Ooooooo….excellent theory on Michael being Ben’s guy on the boat.

    In the preview for next week’s episode, they said we’ll see a face that we never expected to see again. I wonder if that face might be Michael now. Hmmm…

    As always, Lost leaves us with more questions than answers.

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    Sockmoney said on March 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    My wife and I are digging this season. Almost too many new twists, but keeps us guessing. :-)

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    Hans said on March 8th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Yeah, the last 3 episodes were just awsome! Did you notice that Pennys father buys the Logbook of the “Black Rock” (ship on the island) from one Hanso guy? So we may asume that the weird stuff happening on the island is not entirely man-made but might have some natural cause. I find that the most fascinating aspect of this season so far. Of course the flash-forwards are also great and let us all puzzled what happens to Jack, Said, ben and the others.

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    Sean said on March 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Michael is a good guess. I also thought about Charlie, but that is probably blown as he is showing up as a ghost for hugo. I thought the englishman(forget his name) was one of the 6

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    Thor Schrock said on March 8th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Sawyer makes it to. He is killing people for Ben in a flash forward a couple episodes ago.

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    Josh said on March 8th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    This could be a longshot, but what if Ben was one of the Oceanic Six and assumed the identity of one of the passengers? Just a theory.

    Also, could Ben’s guy on the boat be the helicopter pilot. I am wondering if this is the reason he didn’t fly that oceanic flight that day. Would love to see what others think.

    Also, I believe it is Sayid and not Sawyer who makes it. Sayid was the one killing people for Ben a couple episodes ago. I don’t think Sawyer wants to leave the island, like he hinted to Kate.

    Also, I didn’t think that was Claire’s baby that made it with Kate. My theory is that Kate is pregnant with Sawyer’s baby. thoughts?

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    jtGraphic said on March 8th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    I haven’t watched this show yet. I heard you talking about it on the radio show the other day. I’m interested, but are there any places to watch it online? Like CBS’s InnerTube?

    -JKT

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    raj said on March 8th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    http://thepiratebay.org/tv/47/S04/

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    invisible777 said on March 8th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    SPOILER: Sun and Jin round out the Oceanic 6 (next episode is Sun and Jin - centric, both have been doing the talk show rounds, too). Michael is on the boat as per IMDB.com casting info.

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    JKMedia said on March 8th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    I am betting Michael on the boat…

    Other 2 Oceanic 6: Jin and Sun.

    I am guessing, but it seems plausible.

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    Alan said on March 8th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    Jack’s dad was in the last episode of Season 3. I don’t know if he’s one of the six, but he is definitely still alive.

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    shamess said on March 8th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Definitely not Michael. He’s not been contracted for any more episodes, has he?

    I think the six are Kate, Jack, Hurley, Sayid, Desmond (Penelope’s gonna get in touch with her dad and demand him) and then… someone else.

    I’ve stopped being bothered with thinking up theories; I just like sitting back and being amazed :)

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    Tom Beaton said on March 8th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Lost is much better this series than series 3. I havnt watched the latest ep, but really enjoyed series 4 so far. What annoys me the most is that we know it is going to go on for ages before we get anywhere near a conclusion.

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    Affiliate Confession said on March 8th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    I’m just not into the Lost thing. I’ve watched about 5 minutes of it total for as long as it’s been on. The whole premise seems idiotic to me. The last lost episode I watched was something about a three hour tour and had 2 babes on it, Ginger and Mary Ann.

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    RacerX said on March 8th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Sawyer is the best…although liquered-up bearded Jack is cool too :)

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    RacerX said on March 8th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    That really would be the best ending episode ever…Gillighan wakes up and says…”Skipper, Skipper…I just had the weirdest dream about people that crashed into an Island…” Skipper then says, “Sure little buddy go back to sleep, no more Coconut butter before bed!”

    Then Journey’s Don’t Stop Believing” comes on…Fade to Black :)

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    jim said on March 8th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    That was Sayid…

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    jim said on March 8th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    It’s an ABC show and you can watch them online there

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    Dave said on March 8th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    It’s definitely michael that’s on the boat…I thought that was a given. They already said they will bring him back this year.

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    Sly said on March 8th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    The last two of the Oceanic 6… It’s got to be Michael & Walt. And I think Michael was the guy in the casket at the funeral that Jack went to in the Flash Forward.

    Remember when Ben sent the two “off the island” on the little boat way back a season or two ago? I’m wondering, with the time issues with the island, how long it’s been for Mike & Walt compared to the rest of the islanders. Longer? Shorter? Will Walt be grown up, like when Locke was him in a vision?

    Yeah, I’m a dork :)

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    Matt said on March 8th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Definitely Michael. We know from casting that he’s coming back this season. The voiceover told us it’d be a face we didn’t expect to see again and I don’t think they’re bringing back anyone from the dead. Lastly, who better to captain back a ship to the island than the man that captained a boat off the island? It’ll be Michael.

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    Matt said on March 8th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Desmond can’t be one of the Oceanic 6 as he wasn’t on the Oceanic flight. He got to the island on his boat.

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    LostGod said on March 8th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Here be spoilers

    Yes, it is 100% definitely Michael who is on the boat. And here’s photo evidence:

    Michael on the boat

    As for the rest of the Oceanic Six - It’s Jin and Sun.

    Did you notice that when Desmond was having his mind travel a couple of weeks ago that it was asked (by maybe Faraday) whether he had been exposed to any electromagnetism recently? This seems to imply that mind travel and subsequent possible death seem to occur when someone is leaving the island and has been exposed to electromagnetism.

    Now think back to when the hatch exploded, there was a huge amount of electromagnetism released then and Desmond was right in the middle of it. But where was everyone else? Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley were being captured by Ben on the dock just after Michael was given a boat. Sayid, Sun and Jin were on the yacht looking at four-toed statues. Hence, there were away from the electromagnetism and would be able to leave the island without experiencing “mind travel death”

    We know Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid are Oceanic Six. That leaves the only remaining Oceanic survivors who were away from the hatch to be Sun, Jin, Sawyer, Michael and Walt.

    Why Sun and Jin? Well don’t forget that pregnant women die on the island. That’s a pretty good case for Sun and if you were Jin would you send her off with Sawyer or Michael? I wouldn’t

    Another reason is that next week’s episode just happens to be Sun and Jin centric and promos for it state that the final membersof the Oceanic Six will be revealed in the episode. My bet is therefore a Sun and Jin flashforward to them when they’re off the island.

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    Hustle Strategy said on March 8th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    As always, Lost leaves us with more questions than answers.

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    Hustle Strategy said on March 8th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Did he return as Desmond?

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    Hustle Strategy said on March 8th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    gotta love the lack of any ads.

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    Hustle Strategy said on March 8th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Kinda hate I read this… I hope it doesn’t take 2 seasons to track how micheal left the island…

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    john said on March 8th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Shoe,

    You’re missing out if you haven’t been watching the Wire on HBO. I’d recommend watching all the DVDs from the beginning. It’s a genius series.

    Enjoy reading you blog.

    Best,
    John

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    Eric said on March 8th, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Why are people still debating who the man on the boat is? There have been spoiler pics online for WEEKS…

    http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2008/03/episode-4×08-meet-kevin-johnson-promo.html

    ….not a big surprise…

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    Predator314 said on March 8th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    To the person suggesting The Wire. Best TV show ever!

    As for the Ben’s man on the boat, I think Michael is too obvious. Sure Michael might be on the boat, but why would he spy for Ben? I then Ben’s man on the boat is Ben himself. We’ve seen that the boat and the island exist in different times, so why can’t Ben be in both places at once?

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    Matt said on March 8th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    I noticed nextpimp.com has lost a ton of traffic. what are working on now?

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    Terry Tay said on March 8th, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    That’s for sure. It’s a show that you can never guess what is coming next and always leaves you wanting more. There are definitely good writers for this show and the actors are good for the most part. How many seasons do they got left though?
    ~Terry

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    exe said on March 9th, 2008 at 8:22 am

    i think Sayid is the guy on the boat. imho the episode with ben and sayid was - before - the crash but im not sure about this, but there is no flashback-story between sayids “soldier-life” and the plain crash.

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    filmfangirl said on March 9th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Spoiler pics?! Urgh. I think it’s much more fun to speculate… I thought it’d be Sayid because of the flash-forward with him as Ben’s personal assistant/assasin, but I think Michael is a much more likely possibility. I’d been curious as to why Michael (Harold Perrineau) was still listed in the credits, and this would clearly explain that!
    Cheers,
    filmfangirl

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    Aaron Novak said on March 9th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    michael is obviously the one on the boat, but that just doesn’t seem logical to me where’s his son and why is he working for ben. i love lost but it is also the most frustrating television show ever written. I guess when you stretch a show two or three seasons past the original plot line, you have to just throw some unnecessary twists and turns

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    Sean said on March 9th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    that’s right! I forgot. man this comment thread is full of spoils. next time I am going to read it with my eyes closed :)

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    Erica DeWolf said on March 9th, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    I loved Lost during its first season…but lost interest in the second season because things seemed to drag. I remember two episodes that covered the exact same events but just from a different point of view. Has it gotten that much better? I keep hearing real good things about it….

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    Daniel Andrade said on March 9th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    Indeed! I think lost & heroes are the best shows ever!
    ah, and X-files ^^

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    eMarketing Chat said on March 10th, 2008 at 5:51 am

    That one we don’t have here in Israel, but we have our own ones. To be honest, it’s more my wife watching those shows while I keep myself busy on my lab.

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    Flimjo said on March 10th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    I don’t think Sawyer makes it. He seems to be that flawed character who is destined to die in a future episode.

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    Paul said on March 10th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    I have just started watching from season 1 and am now on season 2 when Jack, Sauyor, and Locke meet the others. I can’t get enough of the show. Thank goodness for streaming video on the internet.

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    Flimjo said on March 10th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Erica, Lost continues to be amazing. It might seem frustrating, but it’s so worth it. We’re getting a lot of answers this season. Those answers might come in the form of more questions, but they are so satisfying, nonetheless.

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    HART (!-800-HART) said on March 11th, 2008 at 2:15 am

    Hmm.. I thought Ben was part of the “6″ crew .. wasnt it Oceanic “8″? could have sworn I heard that once or twice … but, I could be wrong.

    I was suspecting that the “Ben’s source on the boat” .. was Ben himself. Something like a time-travel or something similar to what Desmond was experiencing.
    … but - again - I could be wrong.

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    Flimjo said on March 11th, 2008 at 10:14 am

    No, it was the Oceanic 6. So fair, we have Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid. I think Sawyer doesn’t make it off. Ben isn’t part of the 6 because he wasn’t on the flight (Oceanic 816). Interesting theory on Ben being his own source on the boat. Who knows. This show is unbelievable, and I will believe anything at this point.

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    Flimjo said on March 11th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    All good points. Where did you get that picture of Michael on the boat? Is that from the last episode or from a set shot?

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    Flimjo said on March 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Wow, I cannot wait for that episode. Good thing the strike is over, and the show will continue after that!

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    HardGeek said on March 11th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    That’s nice..

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    Dave Conrey said on March 11th, 2008 at 9:16 pm

    Hence the name.

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    Flimjo said on March 12th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    By the way, I have a buddy who says Aaron (the baby) is one of the Oceanic Six. But that doesn’t make sense because he (technically) wasn’t on the plane and was, instead, born on the island. What do you think?

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    Flimjo said on March 12th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    Thor hasn’t been watching.

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    Chip said on March 13th, 2008 at 3:04 am

    I kinda lost track with LOST. But I’m playing a computer game resembling LOST.

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    Free-hdtvs said on March 14th, 2008 at 6:18 am

    The guy on the boat is Michael as we were told in the trailers that we’d see someone we never expected to see again so it’s almost 100% it’s him.

    Locke confuses me, he changes his mind about people too much! Sawyer is definately my favourite, just makes me laugh the way he gets annoyed about silly things, like a horseshoe game!

    New episode to watch now!

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    Gorilla Gripper said on April 15th, 2008 at 11:19 am

    I just don’t get this show…I really don’t.

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