Who Should I Vote For In 2008
So… here is my voting record so far.
1992 - Ross Perot
1996 - Ross Perot
2000 - George Bush
2004 - George Bush
I am pretty unhappy with the last 4 years of Bush’s term. I think the first 4 he did OK with all he was delt but … well whatever.
For the first time in my life I am probably going to vote democrat. I really like Obama on social issues… but just not convinced yet. Also now that he has teamed up with the greatest marketer and manipulator of women aka Oprah I am kind of turned off =(
I have watched every debate so far… I can honestly find something to like in every candidate… and also something I dont like. hrmmphh
I would like to hear from you guys… honestly… Who should I vote for and why… Seems like just a good idea to hear your views then biased media?!?
So let it fly
(BTW I would prefer not to hear from the Ron Paul idiots that spam the shit out of my contact me form.. but if you have actual reasons then feel free).
I could get on my soapbox here, but I won’t. I’m thinking of tearing up my voter’s registration card because I’m sick of them all. We need statesmen, not politicians who change their mind according to the latest poll. End of rant.
ohh woah woah woah now… you can’t not vote =P
But I can’t watch any of them without my BS meter goin into the red. I guess I’ll have to vote for the one with the lowest hypocrite score.
it has been rough…
Yea this year has had a lot of it. I guess that does epitomize politicians though.
I thought not voting WAS a vote, now you tell me…
If I could find someone to vote for, I might vote.
If you don’t vote, you don’t get to complain IMO.
Of course I get to complain! That’s why I’m probably not going to vote. I’m complaining that there isn’t anyone worth voting for!
Greatest country in the world and yet I always feel like: I’m picking the lesser of two evils. Is this really the best we have to choose from? Seriously?
i’m iffy on the whole thing - i havnt made a choice
The first woman president of the USA? Any of you guys believer?
Not that woman!
Yeah, definitely wouldn’t mind a woman leader, but definitely not Hilary.
Damn you guys are sexist.
Then look what Margaret Thatcher did to England
Hillary is no Margaret Thatcher.
It doesn’t have anything to do with being sexist. I don’t want that person, Hillary Clinton, running the show.
I would gladly vote for another woman like Margaret Thatcher, but they don’t make ‘em like that any more.
Margaret Thatcher was a far stronger leader than the idiots we’ve had since. And I know that in some peoples eyes, she screwed up with the poll tax. But, at least she was trying to run a country - not just chasing after popularity votes all the time like Blair.
People are not ready for it. Specially when we’re dealing with nations that are so anti-women. It would be a very stupid move.
That would certainly be interesting to se how some midddle eastern countries dealt with that situation.
I dont think it would be that big of a deal. Pakistan (muslim nation) has had a woman prime minsister, Bangaladesh (muslim nation) also has had a woman leader.
If she or any other woman had a shot it’s gonna be now. I think a good % of the US shares Shoe’s sentiments about Bush (term 2) … for another GOP member to get the nod is gonna be hard pressed.
As for obama — let’s be real… the brotha is…. well… a brotha. That’s just not happening in the red states.
They are those “countries” have had female prime ministers. Look at Condoleezza Rice, your sure they aren’t ready for one?
Noooooo, not her
She’s definitely off the list. And I may as well kick John Edwards off while I’m at it. They both talk so much and say so little. And when they do say something, it contradicts what they’ve previously said.
Yea, and John Edwards is big on the environment and lives in a 25,000 square foot home. Can you say hypocrisy?
Seriously, you can vote for who ever you want. They all can be great and worst at the same time. I was a big Obama fan because I felt he was real. When I saw him with Oprah: I said oh not him too, he gets too political and will lose his focus just to get elector.
All candidates have no real planned… they just talk for talk. No one is able to bring a real plan on the table. Example: If I do something… How much it will cost what will be the impact etc… But they can’t do that because there is too much lobby that pay their campaign…
Choose one president is one thing … but knowing the team behind this president is another thing we should know
I think Obama will be a good change for our country. Young and smart. He did enlist Oprah for help..unfortunately that is how politics is played. He plays the game to win but I think he is genuine.
You vote for Bush? Damn republicans. Crazy warmakers, I hate them and I can´t understand you.
whats interesting is you cant think of a good reason to vote for someone in the 2008 election… ohh you are waiting for me to choose so you can just bash my choice… gotcha
I’d say vote Giuliani because he’s a good leader and he’ll fight terrorism, and he also agrees with the Democrats on social issues.
Ron Pauls not a bad choice either, because he is a libertarian conservative and he actually believes in small government and low taxes, but he would pull out of Iraq before it’s stabilized.
find out why giuliani was in singapore making friends with kim jong il’s friends this year.
What’s up with the radios Rudy was in charge of? And the Motorola contract? Rudy is as corupt as anyone else.
http://therealrudy.com
Also,Any member of the CFR is NOT anyone who should be elected president.
Democrat or Republican, they are going to turn the USA upside down!
Democrat CFR Candidates:
Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Republican CFR Candidates:
Mitt Romney
Rudy Giuliani
John McCain
Fred Thompson
Newt Gingrich
I can’t go into it all here, but if you really care, look into the SPP and the North American Union.
Then you’ll realize your best bet is Ron Paul.
This is a pretty well thought out argument. I bet he worked on it all day.
Personally, I feel like we would be better with any of the Democrats because, even if they do spend more on social issues, it will certainly be less than what the Bush administration has handed out to defense contactors like Halliburton and other shady companies. Traditionally Republicans were good on the economy and I respected them for that even if I didn’t agree with the social stuff, but none of the current Republican candidates have convinced me that they’ll be any better than Bush.
I think John Edwards is the best of the bunch.
IMO, most of them would just be a continuation of the Bush Admin, regardless of party. Given how much the constitution and our civil liberties have been abused in the hands of Bush & Cheney, my vote is with Ron Paul …
Dolphin
Didn’t you call Bush in a post the best president ever?
I’m from Europa and I think I speak for a lot of foreigners if I tell you that Bush changed the view the world has of America in the most negative meaning possible
you also have to understand that the media in the US isn’t providing you with all the info you should get. You should read more foreign publications to get a complete view of what’s going on
that was actually a post to see what kind of impact it would have…. less then 1 hour later I said it was a post for link bait… course to this day it still gets lots of hits
Yeah, I remember that post. It was awesome.
I think this one is going to set the record for most comments.
Hehe. Me too. <3 Link Bait.
First of all - speak for yourself - not a lot of europeans!
And, if you think the media is better here in Europe - you live in a little bubble I think!
I’ll be voting democrat, regardless of who it is. There isn’t enough major issues that I care about, but with 8 years of Republican leadership this country is starting to get way too conservative for me.
I don’t know about you Shoemoney, but I like betting online. If we get another republican in the house we might have an ever tougher time doing so.
So, you’re going to vote for President based on whether or not you get to bet online. God help us!
Please tell me you didn’t respond to my comment just so that you could bump your comment count up…
The reality is that we need to get some counter balance. Too much conservative laws will make a lot of the freedoms we enjoy disappear. That is why I’m voting democrat.
Not hardly. I’ve been around Shoemoney’s blog for months now. And what do you think liberal laws have brought us? Good heaven’s man, we have enough freedoms to do just about anything we want. With freedom comes responsibility, something that is sorely lacking in our culture today.
“Good heaven’s man, we have enough freedoms to do just about anything we want.”
Hardly. I’ll refer to RATM’s song “Know Your Enemy”.
There are a lot of things we can’t do legally because people in Washington feel it is their moral obligation to prohibit these things from us. As intelligent human beings, we should be able to make these choices for ourselves.
Every decision made by anyone is a moral decision. It’s just one person’s morality vs another. Some feel morally obligated to drive the speed limit, some don’t. You shouldn’t cry about your freedom in this country. If you want to know what real oppression is, look at Muslim countries. No one gets a choice on anything.
I agree with a balance thing, but around here there is way too much left wing slant that I’m surprised we haven’t fallen over yet. Just the other day a guy was in one of the schools giving a talk on impeaching The President and had kids sign a petition. But if anyone from the right were to be in there it would have been plastered on the news.
Yeah that is pretty bad if he’s not being sarcastic…
forget online gambling! most of the democrats will reinstate the assault rifle ban and some want mental screenings for firearms purchases.
gun ownership is a right not a privilege!
yes gun ownership is important, but why not a 9mm or a 45, why does anyone need an AK47 in their house?
Actually “old school” republicans who respect the Constitution and the 10th Amendment ( among others) would never support a federal ban on online gambling. Some may let the states decide, I would assume.
The Congress probably has more control over this than a POTUS anyway. A Dem COngress with GOP might be OK.
BTW, what DEMOCRATS support personal freedom, including gambling? The only one I really know of is Barney frank, and he isnt running for Pres.. All the other Dems seem to be cowards sticking up for personal freedoms that seem somewhat out of the mainstream.
The only guy running who supports personal choice on gambling (and other things like medicine) is a Republican named Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is the only one doesn’t change his mind or speech just to pander to his current audience. Case in point: the Univision debate.
He’s also the most libertarian candidate, so he has my vote.
The right position on both economics and the war. And probably the only one who would want to give himself a pay cut if elected.
Far too much wealth flows to D.C. these days. Much better to let the people keep that wealth.
I’d say vote for Mike Huckabee. I heard him speak at my college and he seems like a person of high integrity (he is a former baptist preacher). Also he wants to institute a flat sales tax and nix the IRS. Plus he is Chuck Norris approved (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8), which beats the pants off of Oprah (although Obama Girl is nice…)
You want to vote for the guy who wants all AIDS patients to be sent ‘away’ and have gay rights completely crushed? O….Kay…
Gay rights? Must have missed those in the Constitution. Maybe I should make up some of my own rights, like the right to own a Ferrari.
he also wants to make smoking illegal nationally….
Well, you know I like MOST of what Bush has done - anyone who likes everything someone has done is a complete hack.
Obamma has no substance. Shoe, you know more than anyone that its all about the content. Obamma speaks in platitudes and hypotheticals.
Use this test - If any of the candidates had a REAL (i.e. not political) blog, whose would you read?
Hillary would be talking about whatever was in the Google Tends top 10
Obamma would be the typical MySpace blogger
Romney would be the straight laced corporate blogger
Tancrado would be the link baiting, bomb throwing blog
Giuliani would be the Matt Cutts of blogging - everyone hangs on every word
Ron Paul would be… well…. Ron Paul
Mike Huckabee would be talking about faith but not leading by faith
John McCain would be all tied up in the sandbox
Allen Keys would be a PR1 blogger somewhere (is he even running?)
At any rate, I am probably going to vote for Huckabee or Romney in the primary. I need a candidate of substance with conservative views.
Ok, people… blast me now.
Here’s the blast…learn how to spell Obama’s*** damn name.
Obama for Net Neutrality and Transparency in our government!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4yVlPqeZwo
I will surely take a look at Ron Paul, he is standing behind his words and has some great ideas, values to propel this nation forward..
No War on Foreign Soil.
Remove Taxes
No Handouts etc….
Main stream media did want to to show him beacuse he had not raised enough money, so his supporters made a website and Raised $4.2 million dolloars on Nov 5th. This is money from average joe, Not some big corporations with private agendas. 10 bucks, 5 bucks…
He is the most watched politican on You Tube….. 72 years Old Doctor attracting the youth…
Ron Paul for me….
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Ron has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
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Yea, right. We see the true colors of Ron Paul supporters here. Look at this mess.
you gotta be kidding me
I like the vote to lower health care costs. As if the anyone controls any industries’ costs. Maybe he could lower gas prices and housing too.
I’m curious as to whether the Paul campaign actually encourages this sort of spam, or if the true believers just can’t contain themselves?
Why is this spam? Because he stated reasons for his support? Isn’t that the intention of this post?
Al Gore.
is he running?
He should! I have a very good view of Al Gore and Schwarzenegger because of their work in the ambiental issues and climate changes.
Yea, sure Al Gore is concerned about climate change. That’s why he lives in a house that consumes $30,000 in energy costs per year.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200702/CUL20070227c.html%20
It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do anything, right?
It’s like electing an hybrid SUV as the green car of the year, eheh.
He made the world more concerned about the enviroment and that’s a positive thing.
The hypocrisy with Gore (speaking of his house, riding on private jets, etc, not that I agree with poking him on those issues) would come screaming to the forefront even more than they have been if he ran. For some reason people are polarized against him, despite his cause is the EARTH (where, ahem, we all LIVE).
Hate me now, but I’m all for Ron Paul.
The dude wants to help restore our failing foreign policy, he wants to end the IRS and have a much simpler tax structure, he wants to cut federal government waste which has been way out of control for decades, and he wants to bring the troops home, where they belong. There are more good reasons to support Ron Paul, and clearly many others do(to the tune of over $11 million this quarter, more than any repub candidate could pull in last quarter).
Frankly, I can’t get down with any of the other republicans if for no other reason than you can’t call yourself a fiscal conservative and back a multi-trillion dollar war. Those are very different ends of the spectrum. Romney can be bought and Huckabee is outright wrong on Iraq and Islamic terrorism being a “theological battle”. The rest of the republicans aren’t even worth talking about.
If I were going to vote democrat, it’d be for Obama. He speaks with sensibility and at least if he’s going to spend our money, it will be to pay for health care instead of killing people in Iraq. If Ron Paul doesn’t win the republican nod, I’ll probably end up voting Obama.
I actually really like Ron Paul… Just getting 10-15 spams a day in our contact form… just really makes me want to punish him… and by not voting for him is the way ?
I’ve been getting spammed a ton by Ron Paul supporters, I’m actually a registered libertarian and I’m put off by those tactics. (now is there a future in online political mudslinging via spam? as in anti-ron paulers spamming people online in order to get us to hate him? hmmmmm)
Hmm. Actually makes you wonder, if you are against Ron Paul would spamming RP ads help your efforts?
My only thing about him is I wonder if he’ll be able to do anything. Some of his ideas are great, but it’s politics so it might be 4 long years of nothing getting done. (ie: IRS.. Congress wants the IRS so they can bring back tax breaks to their supporters and say “look what I did”)
Ron Paul isn’t personally spamming you, dont take it out on him
I like a lot of Ron Paul’s ideals. And in theory, it would create a utopian society. The problem is, people are stupid. Many of his ideals (which of course, probably wouldn’t happen anyway, even if he was selected president), are just too closed minded. It is great to leave some things up to states (like schools), but to completely take away funding for the schools nationally is ridiculous. Taking away the IRS would mean the states have to take on the burden for paying for their public schools (which of course Paul has stated he would prefer there aren’t public schools at all), then the states just end up having a higher income tax.
In theory, it is great. The problem is, once executed it brings about a whole set of other problems, so without regulations (which are against his ideals) it doesn’t make sense to put the burden on the states who would probably just end up doing the same as the fed.
Right now we pay massive amounts of money in federal taxes and then the states have to pander to the feds hoping they can then get the grants or loans to pay for things like schools.
One of the biggest problems with this is that the feds start determining what states can and can’t do. For example, the feds dictate what the speed limit can be or states will no longer get money from the dept. of transportation.
Ron Paul is simply saying that rather than paying obscene sums to the feds and begging to get SOME back that we should instead keep the taxes at the state level and let the states decide.
LOL here we are the lower of the states education wise, but we aren’t the lowest state teacher salary wise =P I’d hate to see what would happen if my state were in complete control..
No, he’s not personally doing it, but I get so much of this crap that it makes me wonder if his campaign is encouraging it.
I’m a big supporter of Ron Paul and of the opinion you shouldn’t let a bunch of 12 year old kids with nothing better to do than spam your blog about Ron Paul determine who you vote to let run the United States of America. I think Ron Paul is a great person and will bring decency and respect back to the White House. He also hits a lot of the issues dead on.
Brent, I’ve gotten a bunch of this stuff from people that aren’t 12 year olds. They’re adults with whom I’m familiar (in a very distant way) and they should know better than unsolicited bulk political e-mails of this sort. And yet they are compelled to do it. Is it coincidence that they people are all going nuts at the same time, or is it coordinated in some way? Sure seems like the latter.
WTF? Troops belong at home? I don’t think so. Troops are there to protect our nation wherever they are needed. Our military is all volunteer and when you sign up you are told you will most likely be put in harms way at some point. they want to be there where they belong..not at home. Troop belong on the battlefield. That’s their job.
Spoken like somebody that has no loved ones in harms way…
I do have friends and family there. They want to be there because that is what they signed up to do. I have also served myself.
I’ve always voted GOP but I have not liked the more recent direction of all the “security measures” Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act etc. Ron Paul has my vote and my trust, I love his small-govt philosophy and his honesty (but not his spammers).
I totally disagree with Hillary’s platform, but I do respect the fact that she is also driven from a true philosophy of government rather than just being another empty-suit politician.
The debates are OK as a sampler platter, but if you are interested in anyone I think the best way to learn about them is to watch their interviews … Google did some nice in-depth interviews with several of the candidates.
Ron Paul if someone following the constitution is what you’re after. Kucinich is the only other alternative.
Ron Paul is best for me, as a person, but I believe Kucinich is much better for the country.
If that picture you have of the $133K check from Google is a regular thing for you I think you should be voting Republican to keep your taxes low. Not only that but the extra disposable income from other people’s low taxes should help your other business ventures. If you vote for Rudy then you get a bonus of lots of dead terrorists on top of that.
I don’t think any of the democrats have enough experience (except maybe Biden) to be president. Laura Bush is not qualified and neither is Hillary. Obama and Edwards are just junior senators. Maybe in a few terms Obama can try again, but for now he would need too much on the job training.
…Clinton got 1 month before terrorists attacked us (Feb 93 WTC), Bush got 8 months (9/11)…we don’t need someone who is just learning the ropes when/if the next one comes.
You don’t think they have enough advisors that they wouldn’t need to “learn the ropes”? I would argue that having a fresh face would do wonders for us.
Clinton also did very little after the terrorist attacks, which is in part why the Bush response was so fast and hard.
I’m a fan of Obama, I want a newbie who can start over… I’m tired of the same old, same old.
Ron Paul. I hate being robbed of what little money I have currently (inflation is stealing). I am only going to vote for someone who is going to restore the US to a monetary sound system. Not to mention Ron Paul has never voted to raise TAXES.
Move to England, then you will see what Tax rates really are ;). Even when your moaning at your petrol prices we are dreaming they are that low!