Matt and Adam flew the b-2 stealth bomber over problogger copyblogger, search engine roundtable, john chow and many other websites this week and deployed the PageRank nuke.
Its a pretty strategic nuke. It puts a hurting on their link sale value but seems to have no bearing in there actually search engine rankings. I still see these sites ranked very highly for terms.
I have to confess I do not even know what this sites pagerank is. I uninstalled seo tool bars a longtime ago. (i occasionally turn them back on).
So can someone tell me is this site, shoemoney.com still a pr9 ?
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I’m seeing a pagerank 6 for shoemoney.com
I see a pr10
You’ve been a PR6 for quite a while dude.
My blog shitcanned to a PR2 from 4.
I come up with a pagerank of 6 for shoemoney.com
(though I was always surprised that it ranked pr4 in the first place lmao)
yup…definitely a pagerank of 6
On prchecker.info it is a 6/10 and on urltrends.com it is a 6
Hmmmm… PR PR why is it so hard
scary izit… google killed the rank silently.. goosassin..
Sites with a PR of 3 or less have ranked well for competitive terms for a while. I’ve actually had a few sites see an increase in PR, yet the rankings have stayed the same or even dropped.
Of course, while most people can agree it’s worhtless, many will still check their PR everyday. It’s one of the best implementations of SEO crack out there.
>> shoemoney.com still a pr9 ?
Sarcasm people… sarcasm.
Go here: http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php
I’m pretty sure shoemoney.com was never never never a PR9. lol
we have a winner
Oh well, good luck with shoemoney.com
my dyslexia proves otherwise.
Surpised it took ‘em this long. It seemed for a while it was all talk and no show. I wonder if anyone who was selling links stopped after Matt’s post and avoided the bomb.
and dellanave is a 4 now…
Took long enough!
I’m still PR0!
PR9 was crazy man..
So will this affect those sites that base their prices on PageRank? ahem*TLA*ahem
Well if the SERPS are unchanged then the PR reported shows 2 things.
1. People who use PR to judge how important a site is may think John Chow has less importance.
2. TLA and other sites that charge according to PR make John’s links worth less while not actually affecting Google’s search results.
WOW… shoemoney.com got hit too! From PR 9 to … … hmm…. did jeremy read it invertedly when his toolbar is on at that time…
Your page rank is 0 in my toolbar…
Oh, wait, the page isn’t loaded yet. It’s PR6.
Anyway, I don’t see what this whole mess is about. Take problogger. He is, in my eyes, completely ethical, and trying to earn his income with making sites, and blogging, giving other people great tips. And then they lower his PR!?
Google was an absolute genius…………..
I stopped using the toolbar too. There is a huge disconnect between PR and SE value. Based in the SERPs for posts on my blog, Google clearly thinks its an authority site, yet we have no PR. That makes no sense. But I’ll take good SERPs over a green bar any day, so nuke away.
page does load slow…
Man he was kidding with the PR9. He had a PR6 since few months back when I checked it
. He said that so that people will comment all over the place!!! Nice strategy shoe.
War’s over, man. Google dropped the big one
You’re at PR6 right now. I’ve seen a lot of sites take a hit.
Your blog has a PR of 6. I dont think PR has a direct effect on your SE position. I tend to focus more on my SE position.
Paul,
You are the first person I have heard of on ANY of the blogs/forums that I follow that has seen an increase from this update!
Vic
seems like google is doing some pagerank house cleaning
PR was just a value people used to gauge now it will start going back to being worthless.
hahah that was funny shoemoney, still a pr 9
Best comment I’ve seen so far.
i dont want to check your PR cause if I do its just going to depress me even more, i wrote a post on pagerank as well, check it out
Dude.. you are PR6.. thats still pretty sick.. If you knew about SEO and what Page Rank is and does you can do well with other sites.. but you probably make a killing from you site just because other people see you as a PR 6.. keep doing what you are doing.. love your site!
No, PR6 is what I have for you.
No, I’m a PR9 though.
I’m blogging about this whole thing tomorrow. Are you excited?
LMFAO some of the comments are killing me
Just looked at multiple data centers – all PR6 for shoemoney. http://www.seologs.com/pr-check/pagerank-dc.html
I’m still sitting at PR3 – which doesn’t look as bad considering problogger is a PR4 now. It’s a bit weird – my google traffic has gone up quite a bit the past few days – so maybe google is tweaking how many good links you need to get to goto the next level?
lucky to him to stay at 6 .. I heard that google new algorithm will be even worst in the begging of 2008.. This is only the beta version…..
They got a new plan for 2008 !!!! Internet will change …. the buzz continued
dillsmack went from a pr2 to a pr4
Because unless you sell links, it doesn’t really matter.
ZOMFG WTF BBQ!!! SHOEMONEY.COM JUST DROPPED FROM A PR6 TO A PR6?!!!!
Dang it my A.D.D. got the best of me and I didn’t notice that I put PR6 instead of PR9….that’s what I get for trying to be funny I guess.
Page Rank is pointless (and stupid). I’ve got PR0′s ranking in the top 3 for some very competitive terms.
So did we actually had a PR update?
hahaha i have NO idea what you just said
“Is that Elvis?!” [swipes wallet] “Oh, never mind. Carry on.”
What is p-a-g-e r-a-n-k?
What’s funny is that PR doesn’t matter to the folks who don’t sell text links
Very true, if traffic is good, PR is meaningless
Your site shows at firefox plugin as pr6 but at http://www.prchecker.info/pagerank-checking-code.php as pr5 only.
My blog http://www.semmy.name after having had a PR3 forever is now all of a sudden “unrated” – I have had http://www.semmy.name redirected to http://www.semmy.com for a while doing updates (but they took longer and after 6 weeks my PR all of a sudden disappeared!). It is really bizarre.
Someone welcome him to the joke
Yeah, I’ve got a few half-assed sites that have gone from PR0 to unrated but are still indexed.
:S… Someone needs to update their google toolbar.
Welcome to the joke!
(Was that good enough?!)
how do you find out a pagerank with out the google bar?
There are many PR checker website! Just search on Google you will find tons of them.
No need to freak out about something that has no value anyway. Quit complaining about your PR being a 0 when your pages indexed and traffic are fine. PageRank is going to no longer be vissible in the future because people like everyone on this comment list are addicted to what their page is ranked…Worry about usability and your site won’t get banned!
Im still unranked
Key Word is WAS
You arent alone klaudio
Im pretty sure dyslexic people read things backwards not upside down, You probally need to roll over.
to be ranked take much time in google i think
They don mind ranking sites well for the internal PR that determines se placement they are just wary about rolling out an update to the toolbar pr cause they dont want people to sell links.
Yes Shoe. You are a PR9……………..minus 3
Shoe, from my experience PR doens’t matter that much on being found. It helps overcoming competitors on short tail keywords.
The real deal is how fast your site gets indexed. If you have an high PR (4+), google indexes your new pages in minutes, otherwise it will take 1-2 days – that’s the real deal.
It’s not really being a blog with rss, as someone says.
Put yourself in their’s shoes. You have a zillion sites to index. Which one are you going to index first ?
A matt cutt’s blog posts underline the very same concept.
Who cares about PageRank. I’ve ranked top with sites in niche areas with PR1 above PR3 sites
I don’t know why everyone is freaking out about it.
People saying it affect link sale value. Well… if Google are getting rid of PR altogether which is what some are saying… then it will no longer be relevant anyway!
We made it relevant and important, so the solution = to make it un-important to link value simply due to the fact it’s going (if it is)
“Its a pretty strategic nuke. It puts a hurting on their link sale value ”
Strategic if I sold text link ads…. a bit dumb if I haven’t for months
your weblog has been PR6 for nearly a year now. So technically speaking you got nuked as well.
He means they are planning something big and massive and they wont reveal it just as yet. To be honest the whole idea of pagerank had flaws and since the early 2000 most people tried to manipulate it with much success. Google is making sure that they can stay on top and change everything. They might remove it and replace it with something like PageRate or a SiteRate depeding on traffic/relevance and keyword density detected by their bots. I personlly happen to think that is what is gonna happen.
I see dead people. Better update my toolbar.
Does my pr8 site count for anything???
Looks like you are still PR6 here. My site hasn’t changed either.
PR0 and make $10k a month – suck it Google!
who care with page rank