Bodog Poker Website Ceased In Judgement

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Earlier today the Bodog website (bodog.com) went down. Many people thought it was just technical issues. A good friend inside Bodog pinged me and told me that the site was actually yanked out from under Bodog’s hands earlier today.

Apparently, some guy in the US who was awarded a patent for something to do with taking bets online filed a lawsuit against Bodog awhile back. Bodog didn’t respond because they are not a US company. So a judge awarded a default judgment of 50 million.

Yesterday, the guy with the judgment used it to seize control of Bodog’s domain names from Enom. Almost all of their sites are now offline, and now they are going to loose all of their SERPS.

I am sure this will make some big news tomorrow. You can see Calvin’s explanation here

So if your looking for bodog here is the new bodog.

Crazy eh?

114 thoughts on “Bodog Poker Website Ceased In Judgement

  1. abednego

    I feel as though this will not last long. There are strong laws prohibiting patents from extending over international boundaries. I wonder how the patent owner in the United States was able to take control so easily. Sucks to be bodog!

  2. Andrew

    I find this very interesting, that one’s domain name is held to be in the USA, even if the rest of the hardware and operation is outside. This is something to consider for everyone who thinks they do not have US ties but have a .com

  3. Dan Nedelko

    The company in question is 1st Technology LLC, the judgement was handed down in King County. The total amount for the judgement was $49M (approx.) now the sketchy thing her is that generally only WIPO resolves domain disputes.

    1st Technologies LLC is well known for going after gaming companies for their patent on “internet casino” – if you are interested in looking at the direct URL’s with references email me.

    There are alot of theories floating around out there at this point in timie but they are just that. Theories.

  4. Peter

    The lesson here is, if you business outside US, buy your domains from a registrar outside USA. Also make sure you review their terms of services.

    Anyone can sue anything in the US, and most registrars doing business in US will be required by law bend over.

  5. David Ledoux

    This is insane…makes me sick. Some corrupt judge in Hicksville USA in the pocket of the FBI no doubt. Frightening to internet entrepreneur’s who compete with the US government in a market niche…

  6. DonnyC

    So, this guy now owns the domains but will never collect the $49 mil, right? Looks like he needs someone to monetize all the traffic he will be getting :)

    What a lame call by that judge. He was definitely paid off.

  7. WebGuerrilla

    The judge wasn’t lame. Bodog did not show up for the hearing. When that happens, the plaintiff wins by default and is awarded a summary judgment based solely on the testimony they provided.

    Once you have a summary judgment you can use it to force just about anyone controlling assets of the defendant to turn them over to you.

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  9. Travel Notebook

    I got the email and thought it was a Phishing attempt at first. So funny that this happened. Bodog is one of the worst sites to play poker on anyways so it I could care less. Their software is so buggy and limits you to only 3 tables at a time.

  10. jim

    Yeah but if they consider the enom registration as a US asset, can’t they claim it? I’m surprised their lawyers didn’t foresee this…

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  12. Shane

    Ignoring lawsuit threats? Most people do.

    Ignoring an actual lawsuit? Bad move. I have an associate who recently ignored a suit against his company, and then at the eleventh hour he decides he better go fight it. But he hasn’t had much time to prepare. Not fun.

  13. Grivon

    This is something I’ve always worried about from the start,,, you never REALLY have control over your “internet land” … which must scare away lots of serious serious investors… no?

  14. Alexander Willemsen

    So you think it’s fair for someone in let’s say Europe to have to travel to the US to attend a hearing while EVERUTHING is located outside the US?

    Right.

  15. Derek

    That concept could have some implications as far as letting anyone register .us domains, in theory all you’d need to do is register a .com with a US registrar and you’re good to go as far as fulfilling the requirement about ties to the US.

    As far as the whole thing goes, what crap!

  16. mike

    bodog can be hailed into court in the united states (under sup ct standards promulgated in a long line of cases read by first years) and it is astounding that their lawyers did not anticipate this.

  17. corey

    once search engines find the same site at the new address this will no longer be an issue. the new owners didn’t put a page up at the domain, so my browser’s default search engine queries the domain name.

  18. Mark Hankins

    Lawsuits aren’t “automatically” won by the plaintiff if the defendant doesn’t appear and defend. The court considers on its own whether it has subject matter jurisdiction (whether the case is one it *could* hear) and whether it has personal jurisdiction (whether the defendant has properly been haled before the court) … then it also must be convinced that there are statutory or actual damages.

    Anyone thinking of *not* responding to a lawsuit had better be lead-pipe certain that one of those two jurisdictional factors is missing, or that damages are nil. And that they have the wherewithal to mount an appeal if the trial judge gets it wrong.

  19. Michael

    WOW, this is some serious mess, wonder how will it turn out.
    Hurts to see so much gambling traffic wasted, while the domain is offline :\

  20. Paul Bradish

    I would think so. If someone is a Bodog member, they won’t mind going to newbodog.com to access their accounts. Still though, this definitely sucks for Bodog.

  21. -JB-

    Or, perhaps he should join the Witness Protection Program. I would be shaking in my shoes to know I was the guy who interrupted the revenue stream of an organized international gambling business. Not everyone involved in that industry is a saint or willing to only use legal means to fight this.

  22. Geckotales

    Mark – You are right. I’ve seen lawyers screw with people that don’t understand these sort of situations. We need more legal reform to proect entities from sneaky lawyers and friv lawsuits.

  23. Peter

    If you read the TOS for most registrars when you register a domain with them you are also agreeing to allow for registrar’s jurisdiction to be used in case you are AWOL.

  24. Ian

    lol, I’m not pumping that POS stock. In fact, I advise nobody to buy it. Of course, maybe it’ll hit $100 one day and I’ll be a millionaire. Hopefully Internet gambling will be legalized in the US soon.

  25. Gary R. Hess

    They pretty much say it is legal, but it isn’t. They have all but stopped banks from allowing money to be sent to online gambling sites. You basically have to find a way around it if you want to play.

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  27. MONEY BLUE BOOK

    You may lose if you don’t show!!
    To defend your case from a lawsuit, you have to appear in court to contest the plaintiff’s claims. EVEN if you are the defendant and your claim is that the plaintiff does not have personal jurisdiction over you (the right to pull you into a particular court), you generally STILL must appear. You can make a special appearance without waiving your personal jurisdiction in some places, while in other places, your mere appearance may be construed as consent to personal jurisdiction. :)

    -Raymond (MONEY BLUE BOOK)

  28. Dan Nedelko

    Think about this one people. If this is a legal battle and a patent issue.

    ANYTHING bodog does at this point would be shut down. http://www.newbodog.com is functional which makes NO SENSE.

    I have no doubt that the filing happened and Bodog lost but http://www.newbodog.com would also be shut down.

    I have put all the resources I’ve dug up on my blog at http://www.dannedelko.com – filings, rulings, and some digging too.

    Enjoy but I don’t believe this is a case of process patent violation. Finally if you’re paying attention here, all the bodog sites are now down:

    Fight
    Music
    TV
    Nation
    Beat

    Good times.

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  30. Greywolfdk

    No its not, The first actually had to change their business name also. The WWE use to be the WWF was sue in california and lost thier name to the World Wildlife Ferderation

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  32. dapyx

    Haha and that guy had a tatoo with some links, what is he going to do if something similar happens to one of the links that he’s got on his arms?
    PS shoemoney.com will last forever because everybody loves shoemoney :)

  33. Doug M

    It’s a shame to see that this is how alot of people make large sums of money in the U.S. although i believe in obtaining the rights to use what is already in the patent system, a compnay outside the U.S. has little to no reason to search and see if one such patent exsists.

  34. Never Pay RRP

    This all just seems so bizarre! How could a player the size of Bodog with such sizeable assets to protect not even put in appearance?

    Any legal buffs out there know whether Bodog has a right of appeal or is this the end of line?

  35. Dave Starr --- ROI Guy

    Interesting how many amateur lawyers there are spouting advice. Apparently BoDog listened to some of them istead of seeking competent legal assistance.

    Years ago I took real estate law course. The instructor showed us apicture of a large appartment house complex and then showed us how to use the tax records to show that he was the legal owner. Howcome? When he was a college student and lived in that complex, he filed a suit in small claims court for $50 that the apartment owners had withheld, allegedly illegally, from his rental deposit.

    The complex owners ignore “the kid”, he won his case by default, obtained a judgment against the owners which they also ignored …. and on it went. pay a competent attorney may well be chickenfeed compared to ignoring the suit because you _think_ the other country’s courts have no jurisdiction. When you do not show up, you prove the other side’s case for them and a default judgment is routine.

  36. jim

    If you’re sued and you don’t show up, you automatically lose, so they assumed in that loss nothing could be claimed and they were wrong. They had ample warning, they just received poor advice. It still astounds me that this happened because it’s not like they would’ve skimped out on good legal counsel, they’re a freaking gambling powerhouse after all.

  37. jim

    It’s technically not legal but it’s also an unenforceable rule. If you have a poker game for money, it’s technically illegal and everyone could be arrested, the problem is you can’t enforce a law like that so you go after the next best thing, the money.

    What’s funny with the most recent laws, they are almost exact copies of laws they wanted to pass about 7 or 8 years ago with the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act but that was stopped because of the lobbying done by Jack Abramoff. With Abramoff behind bars, the newest laws passed. Interesting huh? It’s all about money…

  38. Derek

    As far as why nobody from Bodog showed, from the news:

    “It is not clear why Bodog officials did not respond to the allegations. One possibility is they were scared away by the U.S. Department of Justice, which has declared war on Internet gambling.

    Through a series of high profile arrests of online gambling executives, the Justice Department has made it clear that online gambling is illegal and anybody operating or facilitating such activities is subject to prosecution.

    Since then, Ayre has avoided stepping on American soil, but he continues to return to Vancouver, where Bodog runs a marketing-support business in Vancouver called Riptown Media and a call centre in Burnaby called Triple Crown Customer Service.”

    Then again, Ayre may just not be the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to the law:

    “In the early 1990s, Ayre got into trouble with the B.C. Securities Commission over his dealings with Bicer Medical Systems, listed on the former Vancouver Stock Exchange. In 1996, he admitted to serious offences in connection with that company and agreed to a 20-year ban from the B.C. securities market.”

  39. IncomeJourney

    A blogger got hit with an $11 Million lawsuit, and decided not to show up in court and had a default judgment placed against her for the full $11 mil. If you don’t show up in court, you loose.

  40. bunni

    The law? What UNITED STATES law? Sorry the website is located in EUROPE.

    And yet, bodog.com is down.

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  42. Chris

    What happens in the case of you, and your business, operating entirely outside the US in every regard? Sure, you might be bound to the judgment under US law, but does that really have any effect on your outside the US?

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  44. king jacob

    Thats interesting, you arent allowed internet casinos in the US but you can sue out of country internet casinos because you own the patent in the us to “internet casions”

  45. ***V***

    Patents have to be the biggest joke around. I need to make some up for myself, then in 20 years open a suit on someone for taking my patent.

    V

  46. Ken Savage

    when is my partpoker going to go down. I’ve seen a company directory in a office building in the Caymen Islands and I swear most of these party poker sites had offices there.

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