Comments on: Agloco Spam Is Out Of Control http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/ Skills to Pay the Bills Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:45:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Trigeia http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-49071 Trigeia Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:47:38 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-49071 Whats funny is that the people at the top of any thing make all the money. Thats life of capitalism. MLM, corporate america. geez if you want to make money you have to be on top. The only thing is if a company says they gonna pay this much for this result, then they need to pay up. Or get accused of being a pyramid scheme. Whats funny is that the people at the top of any thing make all the money. Thats life of capitalism. MLM, corporate america. geez if you want to make money you have to be on top. The only thing is if a company says they gonna pay this much for this result, then they need to pay up. Or get accused of being a pyramid scheme.

]]> By: SChee a.k.a. Stan Chee http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-31484 SChee a.k.a. Stan Chee Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:18:24 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-31484 Shoe, OK, I lost. I do look like an "idiot" now. BTW, I'm going to "screw" them...It's not the end yet. You may want to take a look here : <a href="http://agloco-schee.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Agloco Idiot's Blog</a> You win! Shoe,
OK, I lost.
I do look like an “idiot” now.
BTW, I’m going to “screw” them…It’s not the end yet.
You may want to take a look here :
Agloco Idiot’s Blog

You win!

]]> By: The Dino http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-26818 The Dino Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:14:13 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-26818 While John is supporting Agloco than they will survive. While John is supporting Agloco than they will survive.

]]> By: Adam http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-24628 Adam Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:38:24 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-24628 These agloco kids must be laughing their butts off at the stanford frat house they've been using as the agloco HQ. John Chow will have to tackle a lot of furious people in the near future... Right now he doesn't give a sh_t, but he will. These agloco kids must be laughing their butts off at the stanford frat house they’ve been using as the agloco HQ.

John Chow will have to tackle a lot of furious people in the near future…

Right now he doesn’t give a sh_t, but he will.

]]> By: SChee http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-24432 SChee Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:30:06 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-24432 S Holmes, OK. No more for me to talk any further. You're wrong--SChee is my real name. I'm Chinese. 'Chee' is my 'surname'. S stands for Stan. S Holmes,
OK. No more for me to talk any further.
You’re wrong–SChee is my real name. I’m Chinese. ‘Chee’
is my ‘surname’. S stands for Stan.

]]> By: S Holmes http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-24105 S Holmes Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:25:02 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-24105 SChee; Despite your pyramid-pusher argument that I should be 'Babak' on 'tradersnarrative', this is NOT the case; If you read Babak's writings, you will clearly see that he is an American, obvious from content and use of language. On the other hand, I am Norwegian. You can easily verify this by several of my postings where I have critized/attacked several pyramid and Ponzi schemes on various forums; Try google'ing e.g. Holmes + Plexpay, and you will find postings where I have translated Norwegian newspaper articles. Example: http://www.realitymakers.com/forums/about60.html I note, SChee, that you are quite well trained in the use of pyramid-pusher arguments, e.g. this one: "Take a look at any manufacturing company… -At the top there’s always a guy titled ‘ceo’ -Right below that ceo guy, usually another category, maybe a few, maybe 10 people called ‘vice president of something’, depends on the size of the company. -The next level, ‘director of something’…a bigger no. of ‘directors’ than ‘vice presidents’ of course. -Next, ‘Manager of something’…with bigger no. than ‘directors’… -And the organisation keeps growing southward…each level gets broader and broader… Try draw a graphic out of it. What do you see? A PERFECT PYRAMID! Who makes the most money ? The ‘CEO’, that’s without a shadow of doubt. Do you understand what a ‘pyramid’ really is?" This is the classical pyramid pushers' argument of intentionally confusing the pyramid scheme principle of "receiving compensation generated by payments from other persons joining the scheme", with the hierachial structure found in most conventional companies. And I have no plan to disclose my identity. Some reasons: 1) I back up my evaluation of various dubious schemes by logical analyses and references (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paid_to_surf which shows that Agloco's predecessor AllAdvantage burned off 175 million $ in less than 2 years, and that ad-surfing revenues were very small per person and never matched the payouts). Therefore, readers can folllow my reasoning and make up their own opinion, and hopefully avoid being scammed or tricked into a completely useless venture. My name is thus of minor importance. 2) In response to my writings about other pyramid or Ponzi schemes, threats have been made against me from owners and pushers of such schemes. I notice, by the way, that SChee is also using a nickname .... SChee;
Despite your pyramid-pusher argument that I should be ‘Babak’ on ‘tradersnarrative’, this is NOT the case;
If you read Babak’s writings, you will clearly see that he is an American, obvious from content and use of language.

On the other hand, I am Norwegian. You can easily verify this by several of my postings where I have critized/attacked several pyramid and Ponzi schemes on various forums; Try google’ing e.g. Holmes + Plexpay, and you will find postings where I have translated Norwegian newspaper articles.
Example: http://www.realitymakers.com/forums/about60.html

I note, SChee, that you are quite well trained in the use of pyramid-pusher arguments, e.g. this one:
“Take a look at any manufacturing company…
-At the top there’s always a guy titled ‘ceo’
-Right below that ceo guy, usually another category, maybe a few, maybe 10 people called ‘vice president of something’, depends on the size of the company.
-The next level, ‘director of something’…a bigger no. of ‘directors’ than ‘vice presidents’ of course.
-Next, ‘Manager of something’…with bigger no. than ‘directors’…
-And the organisation keeps growing southward…each level gets broader and broader…

Try draw a graphic out of it. What do you see?
A PERFECT PYRAMID!
Who makes the most money ?
The ‘CEO’, that’s without a shadow of doubt.
Do you understand what a ‘pyramid’ really is?”

This is the classical pyramid pushers’ argument of intentionally confusing the pyramid scheme principle of “receiving compensation generated by payments from other persons joining the scheme”, with the hierachial structure found in most conventional companies.

And I have no plan to disclose my identity. Some reasons:
1) I back up my evaluation of various dubious schemes by logical analyses and references (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paid_to_surf which shows that Agloco’s predecessor AllAdvantage burned off 175 million $ in less than 2 years, and that ad-surfing revenues were very small per person and never matched the payouts). Therefore, readers can folllow my reasoning and make up their own opinion, and hopefully avoid being scammed or tricked into a completely useless venture. My name is thus of minor importance.
2) In response to my writings about other pyramid or Ponzi schemes, threats have been made against me from owners and pushers of such schemes.

I notice, by the way, that SChee is also using a nickname ….

]]> By: SChee http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-23907 SChee Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:19:52 +0000 http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/02/agloco-spam-is-out-of-control/#comment-23907 S Holmes, You obviously have done a lot of researches on Agloco. This is what you wrote in the Agloco Blog: "Mike Klingler is using a tactic regularly employed by promotors of pyramid and Ponzi schemes: If your scheme is critizised by more than one person; Accuse those persons of being one and the same person. For the record, I am NOT Babak. You will, however, find my comments on several discussion forums, critizising various pyramid and Ponzi schemes, with the signature S Holmes." Under the comment section of this post: <a href="http://blog.agloco.com/index.php/post69/#postcomment" rel="nofollow">http://blog.agloco.com/index.php/post69/#postcomment</a> This is NOT a personal attack by the way. But I still think 'tradersnarrative', 'SH' and 'S Holmes' are the SAME person. You've got SOME valid points and concerns about the Agloco business model but NOT ALL. I'm a promoter as well as supporter of Agloco all this while but I'm definitely not 'blind'. Personally I've my own concerns and reservations about certain aspects of the biz, as well as the ways it operates so far. But on the other hand, I want to be fair to the Agloco Management Team---I want to give them sufficient time before 'jumping' into any conclusion, ONE YEAR is the time I'm willing to keep my mouth 'shut'--This will expire by End Nov 2007. I won't talk more as your IDENTITY is NOT known. What's your point? Why can't you disclose your identity? S Holmes,
You obviously have done a lot of researches on Agloco.
This is what you wrote in the Agloco Blog:
“Mike Klingler is using a tactic regularly employed by promotors of pyramid and Ponzi schemes: If your scheme is critizised by more than one person; Accuse those persons of being one and the same person.
For the record, I am NOT Babak. You will, however, find my comments on several discussion forums, critizising various pyramid and Ponzi schemes, with the signature S Holmes.”
Under the comment section of this post:
http://blog.agloco.com/index.php/post69/#postcomment

This is NOT a personal attack by the way.
But I still think ‘tradersnarrative’, ‘SH’ and ‘S Holmes’ are the SAME person.

You’ve got SOME valid points and concerns about the
Agloco business model but NOT ALL.

I’m a promoter as well as supporter of Agloco all this
while but I’m definitely not ‘blind’. Personally
I’ve my own concerns and reservations about certain
aspects of the biz, as well as the ways it operates
so far. But on the other hand, I want to be fair to
the Agloco Management Team—I want to give them
sufficient time before ‘jumping’ into any conclusion,
ONE YEAR is the time I’m willing to keep my mouth
‘shut’–This will expire by End Nov 2007.
I won’t talk more as your IDENTITY is NOT known.
What’s your point? Why can’t you disclose your identity?

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