Microsoft Adcenter Live On The ShoeMoney Show

by Jeremy Schoemaker on May 23, 2007 · 43 comments

Next week, Tuesday, May 29th, Microsoft Adcenter will be live on the ShoeMoney aka Net Income Radio Show on Webmaster Radio. If you have questions you can call in, or ask them below in comments. They will have 4-5 team members so we should be able to cover any questions you might have. I know I have some questions for them but what say you?!?

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1 elprezidente May 23, 2007 at 4:44 pm

Please ask:

“Why do they believe CTR rates are so low in comparison to other engines and what are they doing to improve this?”

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2 elprezidente May 23, 2007 at 4:47 pm

just to clarify:

I have respect for the Adcenter program and the traffic I see from it converts … just want more, that’s all.

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3 jim May 23, 2007 at 4:55 pm

While I do not see the CTR from adcenter I do always see a better ROI. I think its because they do not have the MFA problem that Google has

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4 Cygnus May 23, 2007 at 5:25 pm

Mainly I’d like to know why they don’t seem to be very serious about what they do:
1. Signing up for new accounts can be a nightmare with false validation errors, dynamic drop-downs that don’t always work, etc.
2. Cancelling an account should be made easier. If the balance has to be paid before deleting, then give the user an option to actually pay the balance, versus just waiting until Adcenter gets around to it.
3. When ads go live, get them live. The delays on Adcenter versus Panama and Adwords is discouraging.
4. Importing and removing keywords…you might be able to phrase this better than I, but it isn’t pretty.

I believe Microsoft can make it work, but I’ve been largely unimpressed thusfar.

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5 Brent May 23, 2007 at 5:41 pm

Please ask them about their API. What does it take gain access to it, and why isn’t available to everyone?

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6 Tye May 23, 2007 at 6:29 pm

On the left hand side, ask them to move the related searches below the sponsored searches, or move them somewhere else on the page, so there is more exposure for the sponsored searches – this would then hopefully improve the CTR.

Once they have done that, ask them why their bid estimates are so high :)

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7 CPA Affiliates May 23, 2007 at 8:46 pm

When will they get realistic estimates for there search traffic?

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8 AffiliatePimpin May 23, 2007 at 9:06 pm

When will MSN stop removing relevant keyphrases for no reason at all?

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9 StrangeProgress May 23, 2007 at 9:56 pm

Could they please remove that popup box which says “Your session has expired, login again” or whatever?

Its pointless – all we need is a login screen with a “Please login again” message in bold red instead.

Its annoying when working with a whole bunch of tabs in firefox. I’m flick between them loading sites and logging into accounts etc, and at least a few times each day that dam session timeout popup automatically swaps me back to that tab right when I’m doing something else.

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10 Geordie May 23, 2007 at 10:24 pm

Ask them if it’s true that in order to target countries other than your own, you have to open multiple accounts in other currencies in order to have access to those markets with your ads?

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11 Harrison Gevirtz May 23, 2007 at 10:31 pm

you should ask them why they count the {keyword:blah} as characters therefore your campaign cant be completed.

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12 Jeff Moeller May 23, 2007 at 10:36 pm

Looking forward to it!

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13 coopreme May 23, 2007 at 11:13 pm

I would like an in depth discussion of there QS algorithm and information to clarify how it will HELP affiliate marketers and not punish them!

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14 ToddW May 23, 2007 at 11:24 pm

Ask them when they plan to expand their KW research/suggestion tool. I told someone at AdCEnter it sucked and they said it was already imrpoved *gasp*…

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15 ToddW May 23, 2007 at 11:25 pm

My ROI on MSN compared to Google is a lot worse…This is for a real product too. Odd Eh? Everyone and every promoted site/item is different.

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16 Aequitas May 24, 2007 at 12:43 am

There are rumors floating around that they are joining forces with YPN to overtake Google in some form or another, was that just a bunch of crap floating around or was it true?

There are quiet a few good questions to ask here, what time is this thing I might have to tune in.

Thanks.

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17 dapyx May 24, 2007 at 4:34 am

How can I upload a large number of keywords? (I have a 12k keywords campaign at adwords and overture).

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18 Link Snitch May 24, 2007 at 5:35 am

Nice work Shoemoney. Not sure how you do it, but keep doing it.

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19 Ali May 24, 2007 at 5:47 am

I would like to know if they are still offering those $100 credits to start with.

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20 Lee Bandoni May 24, 2007 at 5:47 am

I second that question!

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21 Mortalez May 24, 2007 at 7:43 am

Well I am wary of anything M$ puts their grubby little hands on, they ruin every market they enter be it the customers or the other businesses in said market, it will be interesting to see how this plays out, and will they use their monopoly in other markets to infulence this one.

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22 Low Hang Wei May 24, 2007 at 9:08 am

Yes, I’m also interested in the free credits to test how it goes. If anyone has any coupon codes, please post them here.

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23 Ken Savage May 24, 2007 at 9:12 am

it’s on my schedule NOT to forget and listen to the podcast. I’ll listen live this week.

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24 Link Snitch May 24, 2007 at 9:38 am

Absolutely. I third it.

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25 Bill May 24, 2007 at 9:49 am

I’d love to hear from them some comments about targeting certain age groups and how they identify how old someone is.

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26 Bill May 24, 2007 at 9:53 am

My experience is just about the same–certain products perform well on MSN and others just won’t work with AdCenter…and you’d think you could predict which ones will do better but you can’t. So, I just try to test things out and keep a close eye on it–if it isn’t profitable then I yank the PPC ads. Same goes for AdWords and Yahoo! Search Marketing, as well. Some do better than others.

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27 DonnySmokes May 24, 2007 at 10:52 am

Not sure if this is a new topic, but I tried to import a pretty big campaign yesterday (from Google) and noticed that their import template has changed. So their conversion tool spits out data in a different template than what I need to upload. The new template has twice as many columns (if not more) and is taking me as long to reformat as it would to just recreate the whole thing. Does anyone use the import function here? Or do you use the API? Perhaps I should just learn to use that…..either way, I think the template is a real pain. I’m kind of a newbie though – maybe those new columns are a good thing for people who know what’s up.

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28 DonnySmokes May 24, 2007 at 10:53 am

please disregard my last comment. i was talking about yahoo. sorry.

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29 Bill May 24, 2007 at 10:56 am

I have to agree with you, their keyword research/suggestion tool really isn’t that great. You’d think that they would be able to come up with more suggestions.

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30 Bill May 24, 2007 at 10:57 am

Yeah, can you get them to offer some sort of “special” just for Shoemoney listeners?

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31 ToddW May 24, 2007 at 11:23 am

Yeah, different audiences.

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32 Wealth Junkie May 24, 2007 at 1:30 pm

I called them once and asked about it. There is a online form where you can apply (I can’t find the URL).

I applied but no one has ever contacted me about it. It has been about six weeks now.

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33 Wealth Junkie May 24, 2007 at 1:31 pm

Too bad I can’t listen to Webmasterradio.fm’s streaming feeds and can’t download the podcasts through iTunes anymore. I even e-mailed Brandy about it, but no luck.

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34 ritchie May 24, 2007 at 2:45 pm

agreed… the related searches do take away a lot of conversion. btw: lookin’ forward to the show.

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35 ritchie May 24, 2007 at 2:46 pm

well, I don’t think *their* monopoly is gonna be much more of a problem in the long run.

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36 Paul May 26, 2007 at 12:19 am

I’m pretty excited for this interview. I don’t mess with their stuff but it will be interesting.

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37 Doug May 26, 2007 at 9:19 am

Why do they have dynamic keyword insertion without the ability to provide a default keyword? This is a sorely needed feature.

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38 Success Online May 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm

Why would a blogger want to choose Microsoft AdCenter over all the other similar programs? What is Microsoft’s unique selling proposition?
How is Microsoft going to compete with the other services this year? Promotions?

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39 Brent May 29, 2007 at 6:39 pm

http://advertising.microsoft.com/microsoft-adcenter/api-interest-form

This may have come up in the show already, but I missed it.

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40 shaz May 30, 2007 at 12:08 am

great stuff yet again mr shoe

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