Feb 27 2007
Jeremy Schoemaker

Forum Earnings, Cracking The Technorati top 50, and more

By Jeremy Schoemaker 58 comments

Here are some fun numbers.

748 - would be the unique amount of domains that linked to shoemoney.com (according to technorati) in the last week. Most of this was due to the mybloglog hubub. This catapulted shoemoney.com from the 70 to the 50’s in the most popular blogs on the internet. Watch out fellow elite retreat speakers Darren Rowse and Guy Kawasaki I am on your heels!!!!!

30 - is the Age of forum legend Nintendo!! Happy 30th Birthday Ninno you crazy mf’er!!

$23,000.00 is the amount SEO blackhat forums is making monthly from subscriptions!! Quadzilla makes the disclosure in this post That is some nice reoccurring revenue

4 - would be the amount of days in a row that shoemoney.com was on diggs front page last week.

160is the hits per second we received for the noon time digg.

Unknown the amount of time the server was down… lol before you talk shit lets see you handle 140 hits per second! (we can handle it now tho)

60 is the number of days since I announced I was going to do a myspace contest.. sorry… trying to get to it when I have time.

  1. Dan said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:14 am

    There’s no such they as bad publicity hey. So next on the agenda is to get banned by digg? :)

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  2. Bulbboy said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:26 am

    Are you fancying a flutter on a new forum Shoe?

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  3. Stuart said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:51 am

    Damn, quadzilla is raking in a butt-load.

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  4. Stuart said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:52 am

    Maybe shoe should start posting digg exploits, now that would be something to take a look at.

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  5. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 1:00 am

    Who cares about 23k a month - more importantly da king of the wackos is 30… lol

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  6. Gary R. Hess said on February 28th, 2007 at 2:45 am

    I don’t know about gaming but the guys who have a lot of friends just submit stories which have been submitted by 10 other people and theirs is the one who gets on the front page. This isn’t really that big of a deal because the friends feature is nice, however it is really hard for new guys to get started there.

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  7. John Loch said on February 28th, 2007 at 2:58 am

    What would you do if an XPLT were made available to you ?

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  8. John Loch said on February 28th, 2007 at 3:11 am

    I’m curious what drives the membership at BHSEO. I mean, I know what its about, but there must be assloads of ppl who figure, whats new ?

    I reckon they should cultivate a ‘public’ forum/thread, then when enough of their members have posted (knowing its going public), throw the doors open on it for a week or so.

    I’m at a level where I know more than many about ‘black hat’, and wonder if it would be of benefit to me (you put some 5 star juice in front of me and I’ll quaff it just like the next bloke)

    Certainly validates what you posted about recurring subscriptions Shoe. :)

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  9. Ahmad Uzair said on February 28th, 2007 at 4:09 am

    never had stats like this..wish to be like you or even better than you..

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  10. Dominic Hodgson said on February 28th, 2007 at 4:18 am

    Are those dig stats regular 160hits a SECOND seems a little high shoe? (i’ve never been dugg but i’ve never seen stats that high)

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  11. mincus said on February 28th, 2007 at 4:45 am

    $5000Cost to attend Elite Retreat

    $450 - Cost to fly from Baltimore, MD (BWI) to Omaha, NE (OMA) to see Shoemoney, talk and pick his brain with under 25 other people at the Nebraska People Making Money Online meeting

    Now, obviously there is a huge amount of value in the elite retreat - the amazing lineup of speakers, the intimate setting - but if you are looking to have the chance to meet Jeremy and make some contacts, $450 honestly seems like a steal.

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  12. Daniel said on February 28th, 2007 at 5:17 am

    Do you guys remember the site spikethevote.com that tried to game digg? looks liks it crashed down

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  13. Daniel said on February 28th, 2007 at 5:18 am

    Jeremy, this is an off-topic suggestion. I would consider removing those AuctionAds from your sidebar. Every now and then there is naked woman and strange ads there, not sure how it related to your content.

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  14. wildbluff_matt said on February 28th, 2007 at 6:14 am

    23K a month in subscriptions?? You weren’t kidding about recurring income flowing heavy.

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  15. Lee Bandoni said on February 28th, 2007 at 6:21 am

    So with Quadzilla taking offers over $1,000,000 for his site what figure would it take to take ownership of the Shoemoney.com brand?

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  16. jim said on February 28th, 2007 at 7:24 am

    23k a month… that’s some sick stuff.

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  17. Dastar said on February 28th, 2007 at 7:55 am

    $100 a month subscription price. A bit pricey but I am sure it’s worth it for the black hatters.

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  18. Ryan said on February 28th, 2007 at 8:34 am

    160 hits per second? Must be nice to have that kind of a problem!

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  19. SUP3RNOVA said on February 28th, 2007 at 8:35 am

    160 hits per second….sick…

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  20. Hoodmonkey said on February 28th, 2007 at 8:40 am

    It only lasted a second, though.

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  21. Kyle said on February 28th, 2007 at 9:19 am

    I completely agree.

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  22. CPA Affiliates said on February 28th, 2007 at 9:25 am

    Awesome Job on cracking Technorati man thats a Big Feat!

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  23. natekapi said on February 28th, 2007 at 9:27 am

    Wow, 23k a month off the Blackhat SEO forums is awesome!! Not being a member, I actually always wondered how many people were actually signed up there and shared stuff. Looks like its 230 is the answer.

    Does anyone here have access to the forums? Shoe, are you on the forum there?

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  24. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 9:44 am

    If you click the ad you’d see it’s some PPC ebay ad or how to make money with adsense kind of thing ;)

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  25. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 9:45 am

    The first rule about fight club is…. ;)

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  26. wildbluff_matt said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:01 am

    $100/month? It’s probably worth it, but you’ve gotta be really serious about it.

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  27. jim said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:59 am

    The only one I ever see is one in a bikini top… and it’s made me click it (but not buy anything). :)

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  28. jim said on February 28th, 2007 at 11:03 am

    it’ll cost you $100 to find out

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  29. Brian Despain said on February 28th, 2007 at 11:05 am

    Good point - who wants to buy a web property with 230 members? Quadzilla strikes me as a guy who is pretty upset about missing out on the first dot com wave.

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  30. SonicReducer said on February 28th, 2007 at 11:57 am

    There were many of these types of sites around, but they all fail due to their own publicity. I still think it would be possible to game digg if you had a tight network of people, you would just have to keep everything private.

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  31. Tyler Banfield said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    I’ve chatted with several people about it, and although they didn’t disclose anything, they did say it’s one of the best investments that they make every month

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  32. Daniel said on February 28th, 2007 at 1:20 pm

    sometimes it might make the site look cheap, not something that loyal readers care, but a first time visitor might

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  33. Stuart said on February 28th, 2007 at 3:59 pm

    Digg is full of nerds, they have days to write algorithms to keep them from being gamed.

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  34. Stuart said on February 28th, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    I sure as hell wish I could be making $23,000 a month

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  35. Stuart said on February 28th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    That’s a lot of money to throw, but maybe it is worth it.

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  36. fivecentnickel.com said on February 28th, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    Holy crap! $23k/month for forum subscriptions? I’m in the wrong business…

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  37. jim said on February 28th, 2007 at 8:26 pm

    But you’d need enough people and that many people can’t keep a secret… at least for longer than a day. :)

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  38. Marko said on February 28th, 2007 at 8:40 pm

    I got a number for you, im 747,416,635 seconds old.

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  39. dan said on February 28th, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    There will always be a way around whatever they put in place. There’s only so much you can do when you rely on users to control content. There will always be gaming, I think they are trying to simply minimize its effect.

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  40. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    No one said you can’t ;) Work work work.

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  41. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:03 pm

    Not only BH’ers.

    Things you read spark your brain and you can think of new stuff yourself based on things you’ve read there.

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  42. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    I thought it was $10mill ?
    Guess I read that wrong.

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  43. ToddW said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    I’m pretty sure he’s safe ;)

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  44. John Loch said on February 28th, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    The problem with the Shoemoney brand is it *cant* be sold. Its not about a product or a site - its about a person (which is why he can do things like the elite retreat..)
    :)

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  45. Stuart said on February 28th, 2007 at 11:25 pm

    Damn, top 50. I’m in the top 500,000. That means you’re 10,000 times higher than me essentially. :(

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  46. ToddW said on March 1st, 2007 at 12:04 am

    Of course they are trying to minimize the effect if they didn’t then their system/site wouldn’t be to good ;)

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  47. Tyler Banfield said on March 1st, 2007 at 3:23 am

    It’s interesting to look at the SEO BH Forum overall stats in comparison to the $23K per month:

    Threads: 799, Posts: 4,638, Members: 4,647

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  48. John Loch said on March 1st, 2007 at 6:10 am

    Yes he’s a member ;)

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  49. Stuart said on March 1st, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    Nah, probably 2 hours. DIGG has great traffic for a couple hours.

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  50. TheGrin said on March 1st, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    he he, i honestly didn’t see the post on digg front page but i almost guested right when i wrote this post on your down time

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  51. Maki said on March 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pm

    Naked women? Whoa. Awesome. I didn’t notice any.

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  52. Maki said on March 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pm

    Naked women? Whoa. Awesome. Didn’t see anything though.

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  53. Chris Alexander said on March 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    I’m surprised SEO black hat is able to keep those subscribers. The content is great at first, but hardly anyone posts. I suppose its because of the small, relatively, number of members.

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  54. Nathan Hannig said on March 8th, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    Nintendo is 30 years old? I thought he looked a lot younger.

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  55. Poor Credit said on May 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 am

    My site has been banned by digg due to one forum user… that’s bad publicity. To top it off, the credit site is only 3 months old

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  56. ShoeMoney said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:53 am

    hmm digg really has there stuff together.. if someone can game digg that would be pretty impressive.

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  57. dillsmack said on February 28th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

    Who cares?

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  58. ShoeMoney said on February 28th, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    I think it really depends on the day and time. I have been dugg many times but a noonish digg is the illist

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