Comments on: Episode 23 – Net Income Talks Black With SeoBlackHat QuadZilla http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/ By Jeremy Schoemaker Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:54:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris M http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-135657 Chris M Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:16:11 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-135657 The download link no longer works :/ The download link no longer works :/

]]> By: Speedlinking - 3 January 2007 | Malaysia Blog Tips For Blogger - Make Money Online Blogging http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-34776 Speedlinking - 3 January 2007 | Malaysia Blog Tips For Blogger - Make Money Online Blogging Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:26:00 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-34776 [...] Shoemoney interviews SeoBlackhat on his radio show - while blackhat isn’t my scene it’s an interesting listen. I’ll be appearing on Jeremy’s show on 16th January so start thinking up questions and I’ll point you to a link to submit them to in the next week or so. [...] [...] Shoemoney interviews SeoBlackhat on his radio show – while blackhat isn’t my scene it’s an interesting listen. I’ll be appearing on Jeremy’s show on 16th January so start thinking up questions and I’ll point you to a link to submit them to in the next week or so. [...]

]]> By: DngloZ http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-7411 DngloZ Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:21:01 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-7411 Very nice and informative show, thanks! Very nice and informative show, thanks!

]]> By: Eric Lander’s Blog » The Gray Area Between Black Hat and White Hat SEO http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-7410 Eric Lander’s Blog » The Gray Area Between Black Hat and White Hat SEO Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:33:41 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-7410 [...] After listening to an archived show of NetIncome, Jeremy’s show on WebmasterRadio, I started thinking about black hat optimization and the reputation that it has received in the industry.  In the particular episode I’m referencing, Jeremy spoke with legendary “black hat” Quadzilla from SEO Blackhat.  Together, they did something that has been needed in the industry for a long time… they provided us with clear examples as to why black hat optimization is truly just effective optimization. Both Jeremy and Quadzilla commented early in the program that traditional white hat SEO is filled with the same tips and strategies, regurgitated from one source to the next.  They hit the nail on the head too, indicating that most of what’s available in terms of articles and tips is repetitive, boring and ineffective to a large degree.  In battling for improved rankings on the SERPs, there’s really only so much you can gain from optimized titles, meta tags and link building. Quadzilla offered a wealth of information on the show, and I’d like to go through some of his comments (as well as Jeremy’s) because they really indicate that there is indeed a gray area between black and white SEO.  Those that actively practice the advanced optimization in these gray areas should not be frowned upon.  On the contrary, we’re talking about very seasoned individuals that develop advanced techniques that require dedication, research and credentials to be effective. [...] [...] After listening to an archived show of NetIncome, Jeremy’s show on WebmasterRadio, I started thinking about black hat optimization and the reputation that it has received in the industry.  In the particular episode I’m referencing, Jeremy spoke with legendary “black hat” Quadzilla from SEO Blackhat.  Together, they did something that has been needed in the industry for a long time… they provided us with clear examples as to why black hat optimization is truly just effective optimization. Both Jeremy and Quadzilla commented early in the program that traditional white hat SEO is filled with the same tips and strategies, regurgitated from one source to the next.  They hit the nail on the head too, indicating that most of what’s available in terms of articles and tips is repetitive, boring and ineffective to a large degree.  In battling for improved rankings on the SERPs, there’s really only so much you can gain from optimized titles, meta tags and link building. Quadzilla offered a wealth of information on the show, and I’d like to go through some of his comments (as well as Jeremy’s) because they really indicate that there is indeed a gray area between black and white SEO.  Those that actively practice the advanced optimization in these gray areas should not be frowned upon.  On the contrary, we’re talking about very seasoned individuals that develop advanced techniques that require dedication, research and credentials to be effective. [...]

]]> By: Economical SEO just makes sense | Website Promotion is not Voodoo http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-7409 Economical SEO just makes sense | Website Promotion is not Voodoo Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:16:15 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-7409 [...] In a recent conversation between Shoe and Quadzilla on the show they were talking about SEO and Quadzilla made a comment which I found pretty heartening. [...] [...] In a recent conversation between Shoe and Quadzilla on the show they were talking about SEO and Quadzilla made a comment which I found pretty heartening. [...]

]]> By: LinkLifter » Links kaufen - Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold? http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-7408 LinkLifter » Links kaufen - Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold? Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:48:07 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-7408 [...] Insofern ist nun die Frage, wie man als Publisher damit umgeht. Und dies hängt insbesondere für Blogger davon ab, über welche Kanäle man seinen Traffic bezieht - lies: inwieweit man auf Suchmaschinen angewiesen ist. Einer Suchmaschinen-Authorität wie Shoemoney ist es z.B. ziemlich egal, was Suchmaschinen von seinem Blog halten, da seine Leser laut eigener Angabe fast ausschließlich über die Marke Shoemoney, Bookmarks und RSS-Abos zu seinem (zugegebenermassen auch ziemlich guten) Content finden. Dies lässt sich jedoch sicherlich nicht verallgemeinern, die meisten Publisher haben ein Interesse an guter Suchmaschinenplazierung und Suchmaschinentraffic. [...] [...] Insofern ist nun die Frage, wie man als Publisher damit umgeht. Und dies hängt insbesondere für Blogger davon ab, über welche Kanäle man seinen Traffic bezieht – lies: inwieweit man auf Suchmaschinen angewiesen ist. Einer Suchmaschinen-Authorität wie Shoemoney ist es z.B. ziemlich egal, was Suchmaschinen von seinem Blog halten, da seine Leser laut eigener Angabe fast ausschließlich über die Marke Shoemoney, Bookmarks und RSS-Abos zu seinem (zugegebenermassen auch ziemlich guten) Content finden. Dies lässt sich jedoch sicherlich nicht verallgemeinern, die meisten Publisher haben ein Interesse an guter Suchmaschinenplazierung und Suchmaschinentraffic. [...]

]]> By: Charles http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/01/02/episode-23-net-income-talks-black-with-seoblackhat-quadzilla/#comment-7407 Charles Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:35:38 +0000 http://new.shoemoney.com/?p=417#comment-7407 Yeah, that was the best show yet. Quadzilla made some interesting closing remarks about setting up affiliate programs...he said not only is it important to do, but that you should do it locally (rather than use a network), and that there were ways to get some seo benefit from affiliate links (which I presume is why he suggests doing it locally). I've been wondering about that last point myself. Would be great to hear some more about that. Yeah, that was the best show yet. Quadzilla made some interesting closing remarks about setting up affiliate programs…he said not only is it important to do, but that you should do it locally (rather than use a network), and that there were ways to get some seo benefit from affiliate links (which I presume is why he suggests doing it locally).

I’ve been wondering about that last point myself. Would be great to hear some more about that.

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