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	<title>Comments on: Spamhaus Gets Owned To The Tune Of 11.7 Million Dollars</title>
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	<description>Skills to Pay the Bills</description>
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		<title>By: Tim L. Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4818</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim L. Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really a waste of $ on his part?  Think of all the exposure and traffic he is getting to his site because of this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really a waste of $ on his part?  Think of all the exposure and traffic he is getting to his site because of this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4817</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spamhaus made the RIGHT move, if you make an appearance in US Court, you are admitting that you are subject to their jurisdiction, By not showing up, they lose nothing. I could get default judments against foreign companies all day long in court, but they aren&#039;t worth anything unless the foreign company is stupid and decides to subject themselves to US jurisdiction by showing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spamhaus made the RIGHT move, if you make an appearance in US Court, you are admitting that you are subject to their jurisdiction, By not showing up, they lose nothing. I could get default judments against foreign companies all day long in court, but they aren&#8217;t worth anything unless the foreign company is stupid and decides to subject themselves to US jurisdiction by showing up.</p>
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		<title>By: Charl</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4816</link>
		<dc:creator>Charl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they have to fork out the 11 mil being outside US Court jurisdiction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they have to fork out the 11 mil being outside US Court jurisdiction?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4815</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are they not going to pay, but the ruling states that Spamhaus must put a small banner on its homepage and on the ROKSI list that states that there was a mistake and that 360insight is not a spammer. They have not done this. Basically Linhardt wasted his money on court fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are they not going to pay, but the ruling states that Spamhaus must put a small banner on its homepage and on the ROKSI list that states that there was a mistake and that 360insight is not a spammer. They have not done this. Basically Linhardt wasted his money on court fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice controversial title there shoe..

Standard legal practise for many UK companies, if you want to come and sue us then you&#039;ll have to do it on our soil.

e360 may have won the case by default but they still have to pay thier lawyers and they still remain on the blacklist. Still at least they feel like they won..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice controversial title there shoe..</p>
<p>Standard legal practise for many UK companies, if you want to come and sue us then you&#8217;ll have to do it on our soil.</p>
<p>e360 may have won the case by default but they still have to pay thier lawyers and they still remain on the blacklist. Still at least they feel like they won..</p>
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		<title>By: aeiouy</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4813</link>
		<dc:creator>aeiouy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ruling was a waste of time.  Clearly the judge was bamoozled. The ruling is meaningless in the scheme of things. There is no way they can collect anything on that judgement.  The Spamhaus people could go to Illinois and kiss the judge on the cheek and the plaintiff would still not be able to collect a dime on this judgement.

The unfornate fact is with default judgements, it seems the judge has to simply rubberstamp every stupid demand asked for... if this were a real issue it could easily be vacated, but it is not an issue as they have no way to collect on it and nobody associated with Spamhaus or using their list is in the least bit of jeopardy because of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ruling was a waste of time.  Clearly the judge was bamoozled. The ruling is meaningless in the scheme of things. There is no way they can collect anything on that judgement.  The Spamhaus people could go to Illinois and kiss the judge on the cheek and the plaintiff would still not be able to collect a dime on this judgement.</p>
<p>The unfornate fact is with default judgements, it seems the judge has to simply rubberstamp every stupid demand asked for&#8230; if this were a real issue it could easily be vacated, but it is not an issue as they have no way to collect on it and nobody associated with Spamhaus or using their list is in the least bit of jeopardy because of this.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffPosaka</title>
		<link>http://www.shoemoney.com/2006/09/19/spamhaus-gets-owned-to-the-tune-of-117-million-dollars/#comment-4812</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffPosaka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn&#039;t Spamhaus show up?  Maybe they didn&#039;t want to hire a bunch of American lawyers to defend themselves on a lawsuit with no consequence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t Spamhaus show up?  Maybe they didn&#8217;t want to hire a bunch of American lawyers to defend themselves on a lawsuit with no consequence.</p>
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